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Almost all of those links, to me, look like personal opinions. A quick search produced other person opinions too, such as [http://www.webproworld.com/submit-your-site-review/999-online-shopping-mall-boise-idaho-www-boiseonlinemall-com.html#post6670 Tika Web Development Group] where he says: | Almost all of those links, to me, look like personal opinions. A quick search produced other person opinions too, such as [http://www.webproworld.com/submit-your-site-review/999-online-shopping-mall-boise-idaho-www-boiseonlinemall-com.html#post6670 Tika Web Development Group] where he says: | ||
<blockquote>In fact, any link to an external URL should open a new window. Once they're gone, you risk losing them forever.</blockquote> | <blockquote>In fact, any link to an external URL should open a new window. Once they're gone, you risk losing them forever.</blockquote> | ||
To me, this seems like this is from a purely marketing point of view. | To me, this seems like this is from a purely marketing point of view. | ||
Taking a look at the latest [http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)] that you mentioned, the only mention I found about this is related to "change of context" (such as opening new window) in what can be interpreted as two conflicting statements as follows: | Taking a look at the latest [http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)] that you mentioned, the only mention I found about this is related to "change of context" (such as opening new window) in what can be interpreted as two conflicting statements as follows: | ||
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I can see that a visual awareness (such as the little icon that is next to external links) to the user could be considered user awareness. I do realize that this would not be acceptable to the visually impaired. One thing that I believe is important, as Michael mentioned, consistency (not in so few words). At this time, the Research Wiki does not distinguish between different types of external links (which interwiki links are external). May I suggest that interwiki links use an icon to indicate that it is an external link, but of the interwiki type? Until there is a distinction and there is a buy-off, I believe the consistent thing to do is to have interwiki links act just like external links. | I can see that a visual awareness (such as the little icon that is next to external links) to the user could be considered user awareness. I do realize that this would not be acceptable to the visually impaired. One thing that I believe is important, as Michael mentioned, consistency (not in so few words). At this time, the Research Wiki does not distinguish between different types of external links (which interwiki links are external). May I suggest that interwiki links use an icon to indicate that it is an external link, but of the interwiki type? Until there is a distinction and there is a buy-off, I believe the consistent thing to do is to have interwiki links act just like external links. | ||
Just to make sure it is known, I am not against external links opening in the same window. MediaWiki tells the process for "[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Opening_external_links_in_a_new_window Opening external links in a new window]" and then says | Just to make sure it is known, I am not against external links opening in the same window. MediaWiki tells the process for "[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Opening_external_links_in_a_new_window Opening external links in a new window]" and then says | ||
<blockquote>Keep in mind that some consider it rude to force new windows on your users.</blockquote> | <blockquote>Keep in mind that some consider it rude to force new windows on your users.</blockquote> | ||
I would propose the following solution: | I would propose the following solution: | ||
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*To meet the guideline I listed as #2 above, have an option in the user's preference to cause external links to either open in the same window or in a new window. I realize that may be some engineering effort. | *To meet the guideline I listed as #2 above, have an option in the user's preference to cause external links to either open in the same window or in a new window. I realize that may be some engineering effort. | ||
Especially if the change to the user's preferences is not an option . . . Maybe a very good way of deciding would be to create a study group of currently non-Wiki and not so "computer literate" genealogists. I would much rather see these type of people (which may be more than 90% of the users) happy than to follow guidelines set by "power users of the Internet". [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 15:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | Especially if the change to the user's preferences is not an option . . . Maybe a very good way of deciding would be to create a study group of currently non-Wiki and not so "computer literate" genealogists. I would much rather see these type of people (which may be more than 90% of the users) happy than to follow guidelines set by "power users of the Internet". [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 15:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
From what I have seen at the FHL, many researchers open new windows all the times and use them all the times on daily basis, they are more saavy nowadays than before and they do know what they are doing. Constantly switching from their favorite family programs (be it PAF, AQ, Legacy, RootsMagic) to Ancestry, WVR, etc is what I am seeing so there should not be any issues about opening into new windows being an issue. [[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 16:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | |||