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== Turabian? Shown Mills? Chigago? Oh my! == | == Turabian? Shown Mills? Chigago? Oh my! == | ||
I'm preparing to launch [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives|WikiProject:Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives]] but I don't know which format to use for the book references. APA? MLA? Chicago? Shown Mills? Turabian? Any ideas? It would be nice to come to a consensus before adding these 1300 references so the community won't have to come back and change their citation format later. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | I'm preparing to launch [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives|WikiProject:Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives]] but I don't know which format to use for the book references. APA? MLA? Chicago? Shown Mills? Turabian? Any ideas? It would be nice to come to a consensus before adding these 1300 references so the community won't have to come back and change their citation format later. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== Inline citations vs. footnotes === | === Inline citations vs. footnotes === | ||
We may need to cite sources differently depending on whether we're mentioning a great record source within the body of an article or creating a footnote. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | We may need to cite sources differently depending on whether we're mentioning a great record source within the body of an article or creating a footnote. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== How Wikipedia does it === | === How Wikipedia does it === | ||
To see how Wikipedia handles this, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources Wikipedia:Citing sources]. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | To see how Wikipedia handles this, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources Wikipedia:Citing sources]. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== Possible problems with Shown Mills format === | === Possible problems with Shown Mills format === | ||
Shown Mills seems to be the most accepted format within the U.S., but is it accepted (or even known) in the rest of the world? Also, formats like Chicago, MLA, APA, and even Turabian are supported by various word processors, software, and Websites such that users can enter bibliographic data into a form and have the system generate a reference. This brings fairly high-quality source citation to the "common man" who doesn't have a printed style manual at home. (But then, it could be argued that this "common man" doesn't cite sources anyway.) [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | Shown Mills seems to be the most accepted format within the U.S., but is it accepted (or even known) in the rest of the world? Also, formats like Chicago, MLA, APA, and even Turabian are supported by various word processors, software, and Websites such that users can enter bibliographic data into a form and have the system generate a reference. This brings fairly high-quality source citation to the "common man" who doesn't have a printed style manual at home. (But then, it could be argued that this "common man" doesn't cite sources anyway.) [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Link to FHL works on FHLC == | == Link to FHL works on FHLC == | ||
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Grenham, John. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors: The Complete Guide. Dublin, Ireland: Gill and Macmillan, 1992. (Family History Library book [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj 941.5 D27gj].) | Grenham, John. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors: The Complete Guide. Dublin, Ireland: Gill and Macmillan, 1992. (Family History Library book [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj 941.5 D27gj].) | ||
[[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 17:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Replace "Family History Library" with "FHL" in references == | == Replace "Family History Library" with "FHL" in references == | ||
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== Disambiguation pages == | == Disambiguation pages == | ||
The style guide regarding disambiguation over at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages) Wikipedia] looks pretty good. Are there any changes we would want to make for the Research Wiki, or could we basically adopt the Wikipedia approach? [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 05:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC) We currently have two similar templates being used in much the same way, Template:Disambig and Template:Geodis. We should use the style guide to document how and when to use them, and if we want to stop using one, or continue using both. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 14:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | The style guide regarding disambiguation over at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages) Wikipedia] looks pretty good. Are there any changes we would want to make for the Research Wiki, or could we basically adopt the Wikipedia approach? [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 05:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC) We currently have two similar templates being used in much the same way, Template:Disambig and Template:Geodis. We should use the style guide to document how and when to use them, and if we want to stop using one, or continue using both. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 14:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== MOS is guidelines hopefully, not policies == | |||
I like the idea of guidelines, and a way to suggest such on this page. I hope that contributors will take them as such and not assume that they are a "must". I haven't looked but wonder what Wikipedia's guidelines are for their pages. Many of them have the same look. [[User:Anne|Anne]] 17:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br> | |||