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*Published in newspapers (at a cost), sometimes kept by funeral homes (helpful if not in a newspaper) (JS: my grandfather and great-grandfather being newspaper editors would say most people couldn't write so well so a favorable obit was written by newspaper editor from his interviews with the family; | *Published in newspapers (at a cost), sometimes kept by funeral homes (helpful if not in a newspaper) (JS: my grandfather and great-grandfather being newspaper editors would say most people couldn't write so well so a favorable obit was written by newspaper editor from his interviews with the family; | ||
*Substitutes: Funeral home programs. | *Substitutes: Funeral home programs. | ||
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After the project is done, put in watchcare of moderator and assistants. | <br> After the project is done, put in watchcare of moderator and assistants. | ||
On the pages, give new people a way, a place to add it without stepping on another contributor's toes. Especially when we don't understand or want to correct another person's writing. (Jana) | On the pages, give new people a way, a place to add it without stepping on another contributor's toes. Especially when we don't understand or want to correct another person's writing. (Jana) | ||
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:Instructions on discussion page: annotate the Wiki: there is a separate CW page, please use that. | :Instructions on discussion page: annotate the Wiki: there is a separate CW page, please use that. | ||
The further east, the more needed it is. | The further east, the more needed it is. | ||
=== Probate Records === | === Probate Records === | ||
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=== Vital Records === | === Vital Records === | ||
[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County#Birth|Birth topic]] on Experimental County page <br> | [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County#Birth|Birth topic]] on Experimental County page <br> | ||
One of our challenges is to keep this area loaded with the ideas that have come, but organized enough that even small ideas are not lost. | One of our challenges is to keep this area loaded with the ideas that have come, but organized enough that even small ideas are not lost. | ||
==== Summary of decisions ==== | ==== Summary of decisions ==== | ||
*Each section needs a blurb | *Each section needs a blurb | ||
==== Questions to consider ==== | ==== Questions to consider ==== | ||
==== Birth ==== | ==== Birth ==== | ||
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[[User:JanaStokes|JanaStokes]] 17:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC) | [[User:JanaStokes|JanaStokes]] 17:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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===== Summaries of minutes ===== | ===== Summaries of minutes ===== | ||
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What needs to move up to summary of decisions? | What needs to move up to summary of decisions? | ||
====== 5/9/12 ====== | ====== 5/9/12 ====== | ||
*Date or timeline concept giving suggestions based on birth years. Liked by everyone | *Date or timeline concept giving suggestions based on birth years. Liked by everyone | ||
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**2) If they can't find it from the major sources, what do they do. | **2) If they can't find it from the major sources, what do they do. | ||
**3) Then help them get other records that may provide more clues. (How do we move them toward other skills?) | **3) Then help them get other records that may provide more clues. (How do we move them toward other skills?) | ||
**4) Then help them know how to deal with clues. Not part of Utah project to write, but to Link only Analyze, see clues, etc. US and Utah VR pages have separate pages on how to use birth, death, marriage. | **4) Then help them know how to deal with clues. Not part of Utah project to write, but to Link only Analyze, see clues, etc. US and Utah VR pages have separate pages on how to use birth, death, marriage. | ||
*Create a page (or add to the state page) a link to alternative resources and be sure they are well explained in that area. Exceptions that affect a county should be explained within that county. That breakout page is a good place to explain anomalies about collections. | *Create a page (or add to the state page) a link to alternative resources and be sure they are well explained in that area. Exceptions that affect a county should be explained within that county. That breakout page is a good place to explain anomalies about collections. | ||
**Refer to NY VR pages for examples to employ or modify | **Refer to NY VR pages for examples to employ or modify | ||
**Add a link from Historical Records pages to Utah VR page. | **Add a link from Historical Records pages to Utah VR page. | ||
*We need a footnoting task description. Marilyn has much on this already and will email to Liz, Jana, Wilma. | *We need a footnoting task description. Marilyn has much on this already and will email to Liz, Jana, Wilma. | ||
*Must-haves on the section: | *Must-haves on the section: | ||
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*Although the alternatives will often be the same, the order of recommendation will vary depending on the time frame, ethnicity and religious affiliation of the majority of county residents; | *Although the alternatives will often be the same, the order of recommendation will vary depending on the time frame, ethnicity and religious affiliation of the majority of county residents; | ||
*And whether the record type being linked to on the county page has any "problem solving content" in it. | *And whether the record type being linked to on the county page has any "problem solving content" in it. | ||
*The order of alternatives and/or recommended collections will have the potential for updating as more collections are digitalized and content written. | *The order of alternatives and/or recommended collections will have the potential for updating as more collections are digitalized and content written. | ||
*Table is too long to fit in average open browser.....reduce alternatives length?.... ie: take out church rec link in 1800-1852 section since it such a lame resource for this county---suppose some may think writter is lame not to even have church rec listed---but I think we have to go with what is most helpful for THIS county; not what would be most helpful statistically speaking for a state or national page on alternatives | *Table is too long to fit in average open browser.....reduce alternatives length?.... ie: take out church rec link in 1800-1852 section since it such a lame resource for this county---suppose some may think writter is lame not to even have church rec listed---but I think we have to go with what is most helpful for THIS county; not what would be most helpful statistically speaking for a state or national page on alternatives | ||
*She gives more thoughts below the table for specific date ranges. | *She gives more thoughts below the table for specific date ranges. | ||
''5/16 meeting summary'' | <br> | ||
''5/16 meeting summary'' | |||
*Chart can be uniquely adapted to each county. | *Chart can be uniquely adapted to each county. | ||
*Most of chart should be specific to the county, then refer to state/alternative sources | *Most of chart should be specific to the county, then refer to state/alternative sources | ||
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**The idea was if no vital rec then to send them to that county's church rec section—not to a State page where: | **The idea was if no vital rec then to send them to that county's church rec section—not to a State page where: | ||
***After reading about all the alternatives (including some state-wide sources link which they would tend to click on and go off and search) | ***After reading about all the alternatives (including some state-wide sources link which they would tend to click on and go off and search) | ||
***They would have to remember to come back to the county page to pick up county specific church resources not mentioned on the state page. | ***They would have to remember to come back to the county page to pick up county specific church resources not mentioned on the state page. | ||
**Birth info could be in any type of record -- and a very long list | **Birth info could be in any type of record -- and a very long list | ||
**Which alternative record is most effective at getting me the birth date? | **Which alternative record is most effective at getting me the birth date? | ||
*Don't make the table too long | *Don't make the table too long | ||
**What do we do when there are several "gap" dates? That in itself makes the table longer. But also more valuable to the user. | **What do we do when there are several "gap" dates? That in itself makes the table longer. But also more valuable to the user. | ||
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**Point to a state page that can give a long list of alternatives | **Point to a state page that can give a long list of alternatives | ||
**Where do we draw the line on alternative sources? On the state page, on the county page? | **Where do we draw the line on alternative sources? On the state page, on the county page? | ||
**And when do we link to that page with sources that offer hope and supplemental info? | **And when do we link to that page with sources that offer hope and supplemental info? | ||
*"When [birth] records don't exist" area -- at the top or bottom of the chart | *"When [birth] records don't exist" area -- at the top or bottom of the chart | ||
**Preferrably linkable from within the chart | **Preferrably linkable from within the chart | ||
*Pat is cleaning up the state VR page. Please don't work on it until she has finished. | *Pat is cleaning up the state VR page. Please don't work on it until she has finished. | ||
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I thought about combining years---not showing ALL the non extant years; but realized idea was not acceptable---showing the non extant years is what made the table priceless in terms of efficiency. For example often Ancestry and Historical Records will entitle their collection "1800-1900", when really there is no coverage for year 1880, 1891, etc and so you are flat out WASTING your time searching those collections for 1880 birth---especially considering all the name variations/transcription errors one has to adjust for and search for in attempting to find an individual. | I thought about combining years---not showing ALL the non extant years; but realized idea was not acceptable---showing the non extant years is what made the table priceless in terms of efficiency. For example often Ancestry and Historical Records will entitle their collection "1800-1900", when really there is no coverage for year 1880, 1891, etc and so you are flat out WASTING your time searching those collections for 1880 birth---especially considering all the name variations/transcription errors one has to adjust for and search for in attempting to find an individual. | ||
So, in the end, I ended up a baffled, confused, zapped soul---in great need of some chocolate ;) .....leaning towards the table belonging on a separate birth records county page because of it's length and having no decent ideas on what to put regarding births on the county page. | So, in the end, I ended up a baffled, confused, zapped soul---in great need of some chocolate ;) .....leaning towards the table belonging on a separate birth records county page because of it's length and having no decent ideas on what to put regarding births on the county page. | ||
==== Marriage ==== | ==== Marriage ==== | ||
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Clouds - possible icon for online resources | Clouds - possible icon for online resources | ||
[[Image:Cumulus clouds in fair weather.jpeg|thumb|left|20x20px | [[Image:Cumulus clouds in fair weather.jpeg|thumb|left|20x20px]] "online icon" | ||
== Comment on Newspapers == | == Comment on Newspapers == |
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