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 *Color, content, ideas, suggestions.
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 Wilma, the construction in the Sandbox is WONDERFUL,&nbsp;&nbsp;so colorful, and such immediate feed back. I would stay on the Utah Project just because it is immediate success.&nbsp; Fabulious construction.&nbsp; Thank you for all of your hard work!!! [[User:Wyzer17|Wyzer17]] 15:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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 Way to experiment! I love looking at new ways to do things. Two comments: 1)I think the page is really long and when it has more data in it it will get even longer. Is there a way to break it up into a series of pages rather than one really long page? Just a thought. 2) I would love to see some step-by-step guidance for finding births, marriage, death, etc.[[User:LoosleDC|loosledc]] 19:29, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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 **You may want to share the idea of the table with an instructional designer and see what they might add.
 **Not sure what the colors mean.
 **The census years listed are a bit misleading. It gives the impression for those who are less familiar with census records that there is a census for every year from 1856-present. Is there another way to do this such as "Beginning 1856" or "Earliest 1856"? [[User:LoosleDC|loosledc]] 19:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 *I love that you have directed them to other counties what Beaver residents may be from. [[User:LoosleDC|loosledc]] 19:31, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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 *Wilma and others who visit this page.&nbsp; I have changed the colord on the first table, but feel they are not as inviting as more vibrant colors.&nbsp; Would love you input.&nbsp; Thank you! [[User:Wyzer17|joy]] 20:51, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 *::Thanks, Joy. I'll take a look[[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 21:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 *Wilma ... &nbsp;I fixed your spacing at the top of the TOC box where it is level with your Infobox &nbsp;Jane [[User:Evancol|evancol]] 21:19, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 *Add a panoramic picture at the top, not just a stark table. [[FamilySearch Wiki:Contributors Meeting 17 Jan 2012|Contributor's meeting 17 Jan]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Meeting Notes#Wednesday.2C_18_January.2C_2012|admin meeting 18 Jan]]
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 **columns
 **link to a separate page
 **Short list with a More link
 *Color, icons
 **What about using a light bulb and the color yellow on the pages for suggestions, not just words.[[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 18:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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 *Use '''Bullets''' for each item listed under a topic or heading.
 **Exception: blurb that explains more about the heading should be on the margin
 *Use SHORT paragraphs. Computer screen space is limited, people bypass paragraphs longer than 1 or 2 lines
 *Using "templates" for repeated content in counties.
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 *Move this below resources. The term "Find records" should work for beginners and not interfere with experts. (Comments from [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Community Meeting 2012 Jan 17|meeting17 Jan, 2012]])
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 Restate when birth records start, and where originals are housed
 Where people can get them including microfilm, internet, archive<br>
 When state starts and how to get those
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 Rather than a long list of all these, use a More link
 Make it visually appealing<br>
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 Clouds - possible icon for online resources
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 == Comment on Newspapers  ==
 I suggest we link to pages about each category of repository. For example, we should have a U.S. Page about the Library of Congress' s Chronicling America project including how to use the newspaper section. The information about how to use the Newspapers could be on that page [[Library of Congress]]
-On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Jana Stokes <janagenealogy@gmail.com> wrote:
-So this conceptual way of organizing/heading-things could be applied to probate records, newspapers, vital records, etc. The goal is to make headings that are "problem solvers" for people with heading one being the first choice of solving the majority of patrons needs.
-Heading One: Fully searchable newspaper resources
-These will almost always be online. In fact the only exception I can think of would be OCR searchable PDF file within library or society that while on a CD or the libraries "intranet" is NOT made available to the public on the cloud. Fully searchable are powerful (usually online, yippie!) problem solvers, often they are the larger collections thereby a patron would stand a higher probability of finding what they need right from the get go since more records will be searched with a single click. Would include things like a google book (if the book was OCR searchable) of Beaver county newspaper abstracts.
+On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Jana Stokes &lt;janagenealogy@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
+So this conceptual way of organizing/heading-things could be applied to probate records, newspapers, vital records, etc. The goal is to make headings that are "problem solvers" for people with heading one being the first choice of solving the majority of patrons needs.
-Heading Two: Indexed and abstract newspaper resources
+<br> Heading One: Fully searchable newspaper resources
-These may or may not be on-line. USGenWeb might have an on-line index. (clearly not as potentially problem solving as fully searchable which would pick a name in an obit even if it was listed as parent or child whereas the on-line index would only pick up the dead person). But this heading would pick up more traditional books (including google non-OCR books) or catalogs (Early Church Info File?) --again these may or may not be on-line; but the key is that they are secondary problem solvers.
+These will almost always be online. In fact the only exception I can think of would be OCR searchable PDF file within library or society that while on a CD or the libraries "intranet" is NOT made available to the public on the cloud. Fully searchable are powerful (usually online, yippie!) problem solvers, often they are the larger collections thereby a patron would stand a higher probability of finding what they need right from the get go since more records will be searched with a single click. Would include things like a google book (if the book was OCR searchable) of Beaver county newspaper abstracts.
+<br> Heading Two: Indexed and abstract newspaper resources
-Heading Three: Originals and/or digital (nonsearchable and/or un-indexed or "not-yet-indexed") and/or microfilms
+These may or may not be on-line. USGenWeb might have an on-line index. (clearly not as potentially problem solving as fully searchable which would pick a name in an obit even if it was listed as parent or child whereas the on-line index would only pick up the dead person). But this heading would pick up more traditional books (including google non-OCR books) or catalogs (Early Church Info File?) --again these may or may not be on-line; but the key is that they are secondary problem solvers.
-These stand the least probability of being on line (ie:  microfilms) but if they are digitalized but not indexed they should be listed as resources. And this heading is needed because even if a record is identified in a Heading One source or Heading Two Source the researcher may need to know more about how to tract down an image. (Esp significant for  just a name index.)
+<br> Heading Three: Originals and/or digital (nonsearchable and/or un-indexed or "not-yet-indexed") and/or microfilms
+These stand the least probability of being on line (ie: microfilms) but if they are digitalized but not indexed they should be listed as resources. And this heading is needed because even if a record is identified in a Heading One source or Heading Two Source the researcher may need to know more about how to tract down an image. (Esp significant for just a name index.)
-Heading names/titles obviously would need tweaking but I think now you can see the idea and why trying to separate things into online and non-online was driving me nuts---it didn't really help me solve a problem and there are too many things that are half on-line/have not (ie: Chronicalling America -some just catalog ref ..not digital...others digital) or in the gray area.
+<br> Heading names/titles obviously would need tweaking but I think now you can see the idea and why trying to separate things into online and non-online was driving me nuts---it didn't really help me solve a problem and there are too many things that are half on-line/have not (ie: Chronicalling America -some just catalog ref ..not digital...others digital) or in the gray area.
 A while back you made a comment along the lines of "prime real estate". Heading one is prime real-estate - this category should solve as many problems as possible and quickly before we loose the readers attention and before we ask the reader to enter the beginning world of research in heading two.