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''[[Ireland]] [[Image:Gotoarrow.png]] [[Ireland_Military_Records|Military Records]]''
[[Image:Ireland Military Tank.jpg|right|220x195px]]Military records identify individuals who served or were eligible to serve in the armed forces. From 1660 to 1922, the Irish were part of the British armed services. Consequently, pre-1922 records for Irish military personnel are mostly British. See the [[England Military Records|England Military Records]] Wiki article for a more detailed explanation of British military records.  
[[Image:Ireland Military Tank.jpg|right|220x195px]]Military records identify individuals who served or were eligible to serve in the armed forces. From 1660 to 1922, the Irish were part of the British armed services. Consequently, pre-1922 records for Irish military personnel are mostly British. See the [[England Military Records|England Military Records]] Wiki article for a more detailed explanation of British military records.  


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Mossong, Verna.  Mid-19th Century Irish Deserters in New Zealand.  The list of Irish deserters, taken from the New Zealand Gazette of 1863, shows all those with irish birthplaces, names, army rank and number, age, place and year of enlistment, parish and county of birth, trade, date and place of desertion. 1840-1866.  Article in The Irish Ancestor, vol. XI, no.1. 1979. pages 4-9. Family History Library Ref. 941.5 B2i v10-11.  
Mossong, Verna.  Mid-19th Century Irish Deserters in New Zealand.  The list of Irish deserters, taken from the New Zealand Gazette of 1863, shows all those with irish birthplaces, names, army rank and number, age, place and year of enlistment, parish and county of birth, trade, date and place of desertion. 1840-1866.  Article in The Irish Ancestor, vol. XI, no.1. 1979. pages 4-9. Family History Library Ref. 941.5 B2i v10-11.  


de Breffny, Brian.  Irish Soldiers Stationed on the Coast of Coromandel in India.  Alphabetical list of Irish born soldiers serving in India.  Gives name, ship on which he arrived in India, branch of service, Country of origin, the Corps each soldier was serving in, and date of enlistment.  Article in The Irish Ancestor, vol. XVI, no. 1. pages 45-53. FHL Ref. 941.5 B2i
de Breffny, Brian.  Irish Soldiers Stationed on the Coast of Coromandel in India.  Alphabetical list of Irish born soldiers serving in India.  Gives name, ship on which he arrived in India, branch of service, Country of origin, the Corps each soldier was serving in, and date of enlistment.  Article in The Irish Ancestor, vol. XVI, no. 1. pages 45-53. FHL Ref. 941.5 B2i  


'''Navy Records.''' The earliest surviving navy records are from 1617. Ships' logs survive from 1673, but usually only give information on ship location, weather, sightings of other ships, and shipboard events. While descriptions of shipboard events often include individual names, no indexes exist to help locate these names.  
'''Navy Records.''' The earliest surviving navy records are from 1617. Ships' logs survive from 1673, but usually only give information on ship location, weather, sightings of other ships, and shipboard events. While descriptions of shipboard events often include individual names, no indexes exist to help locate these names.  
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Post-1913 navy records are at the following address:  
Post-1913 navy records are at the following address:  


'''Ministry of Defense'''<br>Main Building, Whitehall SW1A 2HB <br>ENGLAND<br>Internet: http://www.mod.uk/defenceinternet/home
'''Ministry of Defense'''<br>Main Building, Whitehall SW1A 2HB <br>ENGLAND<br>Internet: http://www.mod.uk/defenceinternet/home  


=== 1922 to Present<br> ===
=== 1922 to Present<br> ===


Records for the Irish Defence Forces from the foundation of the Irish Free State in 1922 to the present day are held by the Military Archives section at Cathal Brugha Barracks in Dublin.<br>
Records for the Irish Defence Forces from the foundation of the Irish Free State in 1922 to the present day are held by the Military Archives section at Cathal Brugha Barracks in Dublin.<br>  


Officer in Charge,<br>Military Archives,<br>Cathal Brugha Barracks,<br>Rathmines,<br>Dublin 6. Republic of Ireland  
Officer in Charge,<br>Military Archives,<br>Cathal Brugha Barracks,<br>Rathmines,<br>Dublin 6. Republic of Ireland  


Internet&nbsp;: http://www.military.ie/info-centre/military-archives<br>
Internet&nbsp;: http://www.military.ie/info-centre/military-archives<br>  


The Archives also hold many Easter Rising and War of Independence records from the Irish Volunteers, the Irish Citizen Army, the Irish Republican Army and Cumann na mBan. Most of these relate to applications for pensions (sometimes by dependants).<br>
The Archives also hold many Easter Rising and War of Independence records from the Irish Volunteers, the Irish Citizen Army, the Irish Republican Army and Cumann na mBan. Most of these relate to applications for pensions (sometimes by dependants).<br>  


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=== Types of Military Records  ===
=== Types of Military Records  ===
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Before you can use navy records or pre-1872 army records, you must determine the specific ship or regiment in which your ancestor served. "Strategies for Using Army and Navy Records" below will help you accomplish that. Once you know your ancestor's ship or regiment, several types of military records may help you learn about your ancestor's age, birthplace, and military career. A few of these record types are described below. Others are described in the [[England Military Records|England Military Records]] Wiki article. As you search these records, be cautious in accepting the accuracy of the information you find. To enlist, underage boys may have lied about their name, age, and sometimes birthplace.  
Before you can use navy records or pre-1872 army records, you must determine the specific ship or regiment in which your ancestor served. "Strategies for Using Army and Navy Records" below will help you accomplish that. Once you know your ancestor's ship or regiment, several types of military records may help you learn about your ancestor's age, birthplace, and military career. A few of these record types are described below. Others are described in the [[England Military Records|England Military Records]] Wiki article. As you search these records, be cautious in accepting the accuracy of the information you find. To enlist, underage boys may have lied about their name, age, and sometimes birthplace.  


'''Muster Rolls'''. Muster rolls usually list individuals assigned to a ship or regiment on a given day, their ages (on joining), the date and place they joined, and possibly other information, such as their birthplaces (in sea musters since 1770) and dependents (in later army musters). Army musters exist for the years 1760-1878, navy musters for 1667-1878. Musters are held at the Public Record Office, Kew at [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm. National Archives.&nbsp;] '''Chaplain's Returns and Regimental Registers'''. Chaplain's returns (1760-1971) list the baptisms, marriages, and burials of soldiers and their family members performed abroad by military chaplains. Regimental registers (1790-1924) contain birth, marriage, and death records by regiment for families of officers and enlisted men. Birth and baptism records are indexed. Chaplain's returns and regimental registers are available only by correspondence with the General Register Office.  
'''Muster Rolls'''. Muster rolls usually list individuals assigned to a ship or regiment on a given day, their ages (on joining), the date and place they joined, and possibly other information, such as their birthplaces (in sea musters since 1770) and dependents (in later army musters). Army musters exist for the years 1760-1878, navy musters for 1667-1878. Musters are held at the Public Record Office, Kew at [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm. National Archives.&nbsp;] '''Chaplain's Returns and Regimental Registers'''. Chaplain's returns (1760-1971) list the baptisms, marriages, and burials of soldiers and their family members performed abroad by military chaplains. Regimental registers (1790-1924) contain birth, marriage, and death records by regiment for families of officers and enlisted men. Birth and baptism records are indexed. Chaplain's returns and regimental registers are available only by correspondence with the General Register Office.  


'''Lists of Officers'''. Published annually, lists of officers provide an officer's name, rank, regiment or ship, and date of commission. For the army, the published version of these records is:''''''  
'''Lists of Officers'''. Published annually, lists of officers provide an officer's name, rank, regiment or ship, and date of commission. For the army, the published version of these records is:''''''  
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Hayes, Richard J. ''Manuscript Sources for the History of Irish Civilization''. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 A5h|disp=book Ref 941.5 A5h.}})&nbsp;Look under the subject index headings "Army," "Navy," "Military," and "Militia." Additional military documents may be found in private collections.  
Hayes, Richard J. ''Manuscript Sources for the History of Irish Civilization''. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 A5h|disp=book Ref 941.5 A5h.}})&nbsp;Look under the subject index headings "Army," "Navy," "Military," and "Militia." Additional military documents may be found in private collections.  


For more information on military records at the Public Record Office, see the Bevan and Duncan or Kew Lists handbooks listed at the end of this section.
For more information on military records at the Public Record Office, see the Bevan and Duncan or Kew Lists handbooks listed at the end of this section.  


=== Strategies for Using Army and Navy Records  ===
=== Strategies for Using Army and Navy Records  ===
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