(forum thread) |
m (Text replacement - " " to " ") |
||
| (13 intermediate revisions by 7 users not shown) | |||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
MeetingPlace ID: | MeetingPlace ID: 0000; Join the meeting; Dial-in number: 000-000-0000 '''1 p.m. Mountain time on Tuesdays''' | ||
*You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist. | *You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist. | ||
*Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the | *Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the MeetingPlace Test to verify that you can participate in a web meeting. | ||
{{box | {{box | ||
| Line 17: | Line 17: | ||
}} | }} | ||
<br> | <br> | ||
=== Introduce new members === | === Introduce new members === | ||
:* | :*Chelsie Woehl and Dorthy Horan | ||
=== Kudos go to ... === | === Kudos go to ... === | ||
:* | :*Jane Colmenares | ||
=== Updates and follow up === | === Updates and follow up === | ||
:*<br> | :*During an 11 October 2011 meeting of the Wiki Community and Wiki Engineers, a committee was appointed and charged to address issues related to stubs in the wiki. Our report follows; we invite comment and discussion on this forum. Items are numbered to facilitate responses to specific points<br>.<br>1. We need stubs. Without the stub on the page the page does not exist. This also makes the article searchable, and easier to find. | ||
:*2. Changing the name “stub” is not a good idea; this would cause many dead links and things that would need to be corrected. | |||
:*3. Develop a system to track all stub pages, so that we can maintain them. Place them on the maintenance page sorted by date of last edit.<br>a. Develop a template to put on a stub page that indicates it will be removed by _____ [insert a date] if content is not added. This would be accompanied by an email to the last contributor to the page of the pending action. | |||
::*Concerns about adding a date or deleting these pages. Removing leaves no incentive to add to the page. It could be perceived as a threat, rather than an invitation to add more. | |||
::*Some pages were set up but never developed. Moderators and/or Adopters could be looking at Stubs and evaluating them. | |||
::*For pages that have been there a long time, projects that are working with these pages could evaluate the usefulness of the page and put the stub template on the page. | |||
::*How do we get stub banner removed on pages that have been developed. | |||
::*A project could link to a list of stubs for that project so that people can see what needs to be added. | |||
:*<br>b. At present there is a sentence on the FamilySearch Wiki:Stub page ([[FamilySearch Wiki:Stub]]) that seems to capture stubs. It states “Find a listing of them in the Category:Stubs.” This page is inadequate, however; it returned only five stubs (on 12 October 2011). See Category:Help stubs [[:Category:Help stubs]]. We know there are many more than five.<br><br>4. Refine the criteria for removing stub labels. The present criteria just defines the challenge:<br>FamilySearch Wiki:stub ([[FamilySearch Wiki:Stub]])<br>“There is no set size at which an article stops being a stub. While very short articles are likely to be stubs, there are some subjects about which there is very little that can be written. Conversely, there are subjects about which a lot could be written - their articles may still be stubs even if they are a few paragraphs long. As such, it is impossible to state whether an article is a stub based solely on its length, and any decision on the article has to come down to an editor's best judgement “<br>We have placed this on the Forums<br> | |||
::*Wikipedia has a graduated template, depending on the status of the article, but we don't have the people to follow through on something like this. It could be a future project. How do other sites handle this? | |||
::*The community could be helpful in working with the stubs. | |||
::*Could the contributor evaluate whether the article is needing more information or is complete, but is it ready to be used as a feature article? | |||
::*The stub template needs to be more inviting. Would you like to help? | |||
::*Review of short pages are probably stubs but are not identified with the template | |||
=== Business/Announcements === | === Business/Announcements === | ||
:* | ::*Pass along cards can be mailed out. James Tanner, Lynda Avery, Dorothy Horan, Ken Knight, Linda Carver, Wiki support team, | ||
=== Style Guide Discussions === | === Style Guide Discussions === | ||
| Line 50: | Line 63: | ||
=== Improve the Wiki === | === Improve the Wiki === | ||
:*What is the process for selecting feature articles? | :*What is the process for selecting feature articles? How do we emphasize the best? How do we make sure less-than-best or less-than-ready don't end up featured? [[User:Lembley|Lise]] 14:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
::*A criteria is needed - could use one from Wikipedia with refinements. | |||
::*Would be nice to have a page with articles that will be featured in the near future, so that edits could be made before it's featured. Put a comment on the Talk page so that people will be notified of the change. | |||
::*Spam - how to get it removed very quickly - in Forums. Sometimes, there is a time lag before marked threads are dealt with. Could there be a way that the thread is hidden until it is deleted. | |||
:*Subpages – Clarification and possible policy change. [[Help:Subpages|Help:Subpages]] says: “By default, MediaWiki's subpage feature is turned off in the main namespace, but can be used on [[Help:Talk pages|talk pages]] and [[Help:User page|user pages]]. See [[Help:Namespaces|Help:Namespaces]]. In namespaces where the feature is switched off, any slashes (/) within a page name are simply part of the page name and do nothing special.” | :*Subpages – Clarification and possible policy change. [[Help:Subpages|Help:Subpages]] says: “By default, MediaWiki's subpage feature is turned off in the main namespace, but can be used on [[Help:Talk pages|talk pages]] and [[Help:User page|user pages]]. See [[Help:Namespaces|Help:Namespaces]]. In namespaces where the feature is switched off, any slashes (/) within a page name are simply part of the page name and do nothing special.” | ||
::The above paragraph seems to talk about two different things. | ::The above paragraph seems to talk about two different things. | ||
::#Where subpages ''can'' be used. | ::#Where subpages ''can'' be used. This seems to imply that subpages are ''only'' for talk and user pages. | ||
::#The breadcrumb trail that can be automatically generated. | ::#The breadcrumb trail that can be automatically generated. Should this be turned on for other types of pages? Judy 19:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
:*What are all the FCK editor bugs? Can someone volunteer to add them to the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Known Issues|Known Issues]] page and/or the [[Help talk:The Editing Tool (FCK Editor)|Editing Tool]] page? | :*What are all the FCK editor bugs? Can someone volunteer to add them to the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Known Issues|Known Issues]] page and/or the [[Help talk:The Editing Tool (FCK Editor)|Editing Tool]] page? | ||
| Line 77: | Line 93: | ||
'''New since last week''' | '''New since last week''' | ||
*<br> | *[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?t=9863 Community Center - rework] Comments re: [[User:VasquezJL/Sandbox/Community Center 2|Community Center]] | ||
*[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?t=9888 Wiki Index is Convoluted?]] Includes comments re: search problems | |||
<br> | |||
'''Comments added since last week''' | '''Comments added since last week''' | ||
*[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?p=41448#post41448 Refining the Moderator's Role] | *[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?p=41448#post41448 Refining the Moderator's Role] Check out the refined guidelines! | ||
'''Decisions made since last week''' | '''Decisions made since last week''' | ||
edits