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For the above examples see the sections below for their results [[Template talk:FHL#Books|Books]], [[Template talk:FHL#Microfilm_.2F_Fiche|Microfilm / Fiche]], and [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | For the above examples see the sections below for their results [[Template talk:FHL#Books|Books]], [[Template talk:FHL#Microfilm_.2F_Fiche|Microfilm / Fiche]], and [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
:CDs has been resolved. See the section mentioned in previous post. [[User: | :CDs has been resolved. See the section mentioned in previous post. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 20:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
=== Discussion in Manual of Style === | === Discussion in Manual of Style === | ||
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{{resolved|required #Replace: functionality}} This template requires #Replace: functionality. This functionality is achieved through the StringFunctions within the ParserFunctions . . . may need an upgrade to ParserFunctions and definitely enable them. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC) | {{resolved|required #Replace: functionality}} This template requires #Replace: functionality. This functionality is achieved through the StringFunctions within the ParserFunctions . . . may need an upgrade to ParserFunctions and definitely enable them. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Film Number Search == | == Film Number Search == | ||
=== Microfilm / Fiche === | === Microfilm / Fiche === | ||
Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | ||
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::Thank you for your comment Sammy. However, you are using the '''Record ID''' synonymously with '''Film Number''' . . . they are just not the same thing. At this time, '''Record ID''' is not supported here. I am waiting to hear back from some people at headquarters first, but guess I will not until after NGS. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 04:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC) | ::Thank you for your comment Sammy. However, you are using the '''Record ID''' synonymously with '''Film Number''' . . . they are just not the same thing. At this time, '''Record ID''' is not supported here. I am waiting to hear back from some people at headquarters first, but guess I will not until after NGS. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 04:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Call Number Search == | == Call Number Search == | ||
=== Books === | === Books === | ||
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:Thank you very much for the examples. I am communicating with the person that told me that they all begin with a '9' to see if I misunderstood, they were mistaken, or what happened. I believe they have been involved with the catalog at some point. Thank you again and will keep you up to date. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 15:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | :Thank you very much for the examples. I am communicating with the person that told me that they all begin with a '9' to see if I misunderstood, they were mistaken, or what happened. I believe they have been involved with the catalog at some point. Thank you again and will keep you up to date. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 15:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
::After discussion with the person at FamilySearch that told me about the '9', I was told that takes care of MOST cases. This would not be acceptable. After much discussion, we found books ALWAYS have a space in the call number. I discussed it further with someone else more familiar with the catalog and was able to confirm this fact. The template has changed to work using this method. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 20:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ::After discussion with the person at FamilySearch that told me about the '9', I was told that takes care of MOST cases. This would not be acceptable. After much discussion, we found books ALWAYS have a space in the call number. I discussed it further with someone else more familiar with the catalog and was able to confirm this fact. The template has changed to work using this method. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 20:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Thank you for doing this and for doing it so quickly! There should be a space between the Dewey number (all numbers, like 428.1) and the Cutter number (letter(s) and number(s), like M855a). The two combined give the book number of 428.1 M855a with a space between. Marilyn Markham 19 August 2010 | :::Thank you for doing this and for doing it so quickly! There should be a space between the Dewey number (all numbers, like 428.1) and the Cutter number (letter(s) and number(s), like M855a). The two combined give the book number of 428.1 M855a with a space between. Marilyn Markham 19 August 2010 | ||
=== CDs === | === CDs === | ||
Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | ||
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:This has not been answered. The template does not work for CDs at this time as Title numbers are not implemented at this time. * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 19:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | :This has not been answered. The template does not work for CDs at this time as Title numbers are not implemented at this time. * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 19:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
::This has been resolved. CDs are found through a Call Number Search (same as a book). [[User: | ::This has been resolved. CDs are found through a Call Number Search (same as a book). [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 20:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
=== Pamphlets / Pedigrees / Maps === | === Pamphlets / Pedigrees / Maps === | ||
As it turns out, pamphlets, pedigrees, and maps may ALSO be found through a Call Number Search (same as a book). Examples have been added. Is there anything else? I would guess it may be found through the same Call Number Search. [[User: | As it turns out, pamphlets, pedigrees, and maps may ALSO be found through a Call Number Search (same as a book). Examples have been added. Is there anything else? I would guess it may be found through the same Call Number Search. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 20:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | == Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | ||
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[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
Several of us would really like to link to a catalog results set based on place and subject, for example: Kentucky, Boone - Cemeteries<br>Massachusetts, Suffolk, Boston - Church records | Several of us would really like to link to a catalog results set based on place and subject, for example: Kentucky, Boone - Cemeteries<br>Massachusetts, Suffolk, Boston - Church records | ||
California - History - 1846-1850 | California - History - 1846-1850 | ||
<br>As new things are added to the catalog, they would automatically be on the results list that Wiki would direct people to. That would be easier than for us to remember and find the time to go see what is new for a particular topic and locality. This would be updated when the catalog is updated. | <br>As new things are added to the catalog, they would automatically be on the results list that Wiki would direct people to. That would be easier than for us to remember and find the time to go see what is new for a particular topic and locality. This would be updated when the catalog is updated. | ||
I haven't tried to link by just subject, but there could be times when we would want to do this for books/records, such as: | I haven't tried to link by just subject, but there could be times when we would want to do this for books/records, such as: | ||
Pioneers - California | Pioneers - California | ||
African American Women | African American Women | ||
Amish | Amish | ||
Some books/records are not tied to a locality at all. They can't be found in a Place Search, only by Subject, Author or Title. For example: | Some books/records are not tied to a locality at all. They can't be found in a Place Search, only by Subject, Author or Title. For example: | ||
- Cleon Skousen's book, The Story of the Mormon Pioneers. The subject headings for this book are 'Pioneers' and 'Mormons - Biography'. | - Cleon Skousen's book, The Story of the Mormon Pioneers. The subject headings for this book are 'Pioneers' and 'Mormons - Biography'. | ||
- The Mennonites, by C. Henry Smith only has 'Mennonites' as the subject heading. | - The Mennonites, by C. Henry Smith only has 'Mennonites' as the subject heading. | ||
So people who don't know the author and title would have a hard time finding them without the link to the Subject results set. Keyword could be useful also. | So people who don't know the author and title would have a hard time finding them without the link to the Subject results set. Keyword could be useful also. | ||
Currently I don't think we would need the search results by Surname, Title or Author, since we are writing about places and topics/subjects. | Currently I don't think we would need the search results by Surname, Title or Author, since we are writing about places and topics/subjects. | ||
Marilyn Markham, 29 August 2010 | Marilyn Markham, 29 August 2010 | ||
:I am not opposed to any other options. The factors would require the link to be permanent (in other words, not changing from the current FHLC to the one in beta). Can you provide links to both catalogs of what you would like to see? It may be helpful to provide steps on how you got the results. It would be nice if I had access to those familiar with both on-line catalogs. When you talk about results based upon "place and subject", are you referring to a "Place Search" and a "Subject Search" or doing a "Place Search" and then drilling down to a subject? It kind of sounds like the latter. Summarizing, "Place", "Subject", and "Keyword" may come in handy, but not "Surname", "Title", and "Author" probably are not useful. [[User: | :I am not opposed to any other options. The factors would require the link to be permanent (in other words, not changing from the current FHLC to the one in beta). Can you provide links to both catalogs of what you would like to see? It may be helpful to provide steps on how you got the results. It would be nice if I had access to those familiar with both on-line catalogs. When you talk about results based upon "place and subject", are you referring to a "Place Search" and a "Subject Search" or doing a "Place Search" and then drilling down to a subject? It kind of sounds like the latter. Summarizing, "Place", "Subject", and "Keyword" may come in handy, but not "Surname", "Title", and "Author" probably are not useful. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 22:59, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Title number == | == Title number == | ||
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:Thank you Fran for posting this. Which thread did it come from? I was unable to find it. It is similar to one of the posts at the top of this page. Just like films, it shows a similar list. It also matches the information talked about in previous meetings. I suppose if one wants to get to title details, they can use the "item" type and get directly to the collection. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 05:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | :Thank you Fran for posting this. Which thread did it come from? I was unable to find it. It is similar to one of the posts at the top of this page. Just like films, it shows a similar list. It also matches the information talked about in previous meetings. I suppose if one wants to get to title details, they can use the "item" type and get directly to the collection. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 05:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:*The post is is on the [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=3242&highlight=pipkin&page=2 second page about two-thirds the way down the screen.] --[[User:JensenFA|Fran]] 18:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC) | :*The post is is on the [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=3242&highlight=pipkin&page=2 second page about two-thirds the way down the screen.] --[[User:JensenFA|Fran]] 18:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I am not seeing that posting. Which post number is it in that thread? I only found two postings on page 2 from Pipkin, but they did not include that posting. I searched that page for other keywords and did not find them either. What is going on here? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC) | ::I am not seeing that posting. Which post number is it in that thread? I only found two postings on page 2 from Pipkin, but they did not include that posting. I searched that page for other keywords and did not find them either. What is going on here? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Finally ran across it on [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=3242&page=7#69 page 7 (posting #69)]. [[User: | :::Finally ran across it on [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=3242&page=7#69 page 7 (posting #69)]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 15:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Ref Q book, and ampersand problems == | |||
I used this template in [[New England Historic Genealogical Society#Guides]] for a Ref Q book called the '''Greenlaw Index of the New England Historic Genealogical Society'''. Something makes the template fall apart after a few saves when the pipe turns into multiplying ampersands. I suspect it has to do with the unusual nature of the call number. Can this be fixed? [[User:DiltsGD|DiltsGD]] 04:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | |||