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== Display type and CD examples == | == Display type and CD examples == | ||
Please allow a way to show whether the item is a Book, Film, Fiche, or CD-ROM in the call number. For example, '''FHL Book 973 X2Lai''', or '''FHL Film 203621'''. | Please allow a way to show whether the item is a Book, Film, Fiche, or CD-ROM in the call number. For example, '''FHL Book 973 X2Lai''', or '''FHL Film 203621'''. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 14:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Thank you for commenting. The plan is to allow those at an absolute minimum. Do you have an example of CD-ROM? I know the microfiche have numbers just like the microfilm. I have requested an extension that will make some of this easier. I have wondered if a need exists for locality look-ups, showing summary vs. details, etc. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 14:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | :Thank you for commenting. The plan is to allow those at an absolute minimum. Do you have an example of CD-ROM? I know the microfiche have numbers just like the microfilm. I have requested an extension that will make some of this easier. I have wondered if a need exists for locality look-ups, showing summary vs. details, etc. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 14:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::I just realized something else you said. You requested the type to be displayed (film, book, CD, etc.). According to consensus in the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Format for Citing and Linking to Works in FHLC, Worldcat (OCLC)|Manual of Style]] (as long as I understood it correctly), the media type would not be displayed. If you feel this should be revisited, may I suggest that you put it on a community meeting agenda? It may be worth discussing more. A discussion on what I was referring to with summary or details is more like the questions I posed in the Microfilm section below. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ::I just realized something else you said. You requested the type to be displayed (film, book, CD, etc.). According to consensus in the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Format for Citing and Linking to Works in FHLC, Worldcat (OCLC)|Manual of Style]] (as long as I understood it correctly), the media type would not be displayed. If you feel this should be revisited, may I suggest that you put it on a community meeting agenda? It may be worth discussing more. A discussion on what I was referring to with summary or details is more like the questions I posed in the Microfilm section below. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
For the above examples | For the above examples see the sections below for their results [[Template talk:FHL#Books|Books]][[Template talk:FHL#Microfilm / Fiche|Microfilm / Fiche]], and [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Other Discussion == | == Other Discussion == | ||
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== Microfilm / Fiche == | == Microfilm / Fiche == | ||
Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | |||
*Film: {{tlx|FHL|203621}} produces {{FHL|203621}} | |||
*Film: {{tlx|FHL|203621|film}} produces {{FHL|203621|film}} | |||
Should microfilm {{tlx|FHL|1059152}} produce which of the following (currently produces {{FHL|1059152}})? | Should microfilm {{tlx|FHL|1059152}} produce which of the following (currently produces {{FHL|1059152}})? | ||
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#something else | #something else | ||
'''Title number''': The problems with the "Title details" and "Title film notes": | '''Title number''': The problems with the "Title details" and "Title film notes": | ||
#Requires a title number instead of the film number. I do not know if these are persistent. | |||
#Requires a title number instead of the film number. I do not know if these are persistent. | |||
#The display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that these work this way. | #The display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that these work this way. | ||
[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== Film number not working === | === Film number not working === | ||
[[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]] pointed out that some problem exists on [[Remich Commune, Luxembourg]] where you find the census in the FHLC, copy the film number (ie. 2398734), use this in {{tlx|FHL|2398734}} with this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&columns=*,0,0&titleno=2398734&disp=2398734 result]. This link is not right. I found that I was testing some other thing and forgot to change it back. This uses title details which uses some other title number other the the film number. I should have been using (and am back there now) the Film Hit List similar to the Book Hit List where this same example produces this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=2398734 result]. See comment in the [[Template talk:FHL# | [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]] pointed out that some problem exists on [[Remich Commune, Luxembourg]] where you find the census in the FHLC, copy the film number (ie. 2398734), use this in {{tlx|FHL|2398734}} with this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&columns=*,0,0&titleno=2398734&disp=2398734 result]. This link is not right. I found that I was testing some other thing and forgot to change it back. This uses title details which uses some other title number other the the film number. I should have been using (and am back there now) the Film Hit List similar to the Book Hit List where this same example produces this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=2398734 result]. See comment in the [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs section]] concerning Title Numbers. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 16:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
=== Long lists of films? === | === Long lists of films? === | ||
See [[FamilySearch Wiki:Guiding Principles]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics]] (specifically [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics#Limited_Topics|Limited Topics]]). Maybe we need to have title numbers if they will be persistent??? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 17:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | See [[FamilySearch Wiki:Guiding Principles]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics]] (specifically [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics#Limited_Topics|Limited Topics]]). Maybe we need to have title numbers if they will be persistent??? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 17:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Books == | == Books == | ||
Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | |||
*Book: {{tlx|FHL|973 X2Lai|book}} produces {{FHL|973 X2Lai|book}} | |||
Should books {{tlx|FHL|941.5 D27gj|book}} produce which of the following? | Should books {{tlx|FHL|941.5 D27gj|book}} produce which of the following? | ||
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#something else | #something else | ||
[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== CDs == | |||
Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | |||
*Book: {{tlx|FHL|973 X2Lai|book}} produces {{FHL|973 X2Lai|book}} | |||
*Film: {{tlx|FHL|203621}} produces {{FHL|203621}} | |||
*Film: {{tlx|FHL|203621|film}} produces {{FHL|203621|film}} | |||
*CDs: see [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs section]] | |||
Two examples were given of CD examples above. However, the URL uses a title number that is not anywhere on the page. How would someone find a CD or the title number? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | Two examples were given of CD examples above. However, the URL uses a title number that is not anywhere on the page. How would someone find a CD or the title number? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | == Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | ||
Is there a need to be able to display anything from the FHLC based upon any of the items listed in the above heading? For example, [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=185649&subject_disp=New+York%2C+New+York+%28City%29 New York City]? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | Is there a need to be able to display anything from the FHLC based upon any of the items listed in the above heading? For example, [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=185649&subject_disp=New+York%2C+New+York+%28City%29 New York City]? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Title number == | |||