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<blockquote>Turabian Style, a standard for college and university students since 1937, is essentially an abbreviated version of Chicago Style. </blockquote><blockquote>Among these options, ''The Chicago Manual''’s Humanities Style has been the most effective for history researchers. ''Evidence Explained ''is rooted in that style. However, most ''Evidence ''models treat original or electronic sources not covered by [the then current editions of] the manuals above, as well as some modifications that better meet the analytical needs of history researchers.<ref name="Mills42">Elizabeth Shown Mills, ''Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace'' (Baltimore : Genealogical Publishing Company, 2007), 42; PDF edition.</ref> </blockquote> | <blockquote>Turabian Style, a standard for college and university students since 1937, is essentially an abbreviated version of Chicago Style. </blockquote><blockquote>Among these options, ''The Chicago Manual''’s Humanities Style has been the most effective for history researchers. ''Evidence Explained ''is rooted in that style. However, most ''Evidence ''models treat original or electronic sources not covered by [the then current editions of] the manuals above, as well as some modifications that better meet the analytical needs of history researchers.<ref name="Mills42">Elizabeth Shown Mills, ''Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace'' (Baltimore : Genealogical Publishing Company, 2007), 42; PDF edition.</ref> </blockquote> | ||
I have the latest editions of Turabian and CMS, and I think it safe to say that Turabian is no longer a branch off of CMS, but is now equivalent, though only a student's subset is presented. To the best of my knowledge, the primary modification that Mills makes to CMS/Turabian is the addition of analytical information at the end of a note describing anything that compromises the information or evidence arising from the source. However, since ''Evidence'' was in production at the same time as CMS 15th ed., it is possible that treatment of electronic sources differs between the two. As Thomas points out, we should produce a sample note (''note'' is shorthand for ''footnote ''or ''endnote'') in CMS 15 and Mills for the BYU online books and see if the two differ. [[User:RobertRaymondUT|Robert]] 17:44, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | I have the latest editions of Turabian and CMS, and I think it safe to say that Turabian is no longer a branch off of CMS, but is now equivalent, though only a student's subset is presented. To the best of my knowledge, the primary modification that Mills makes to CMS/Turabian is the addition of analytical information at the end of a note describing anything that compromises the information or evidence arising from the source. However, since ''Evidence'' was in production at the same time as CMS 15th ed., it is possible that treatment of electronic sources differs between the two. As Thomas points out, we should produce a sample note (''note'' is shorthand for ''footnote ''or ''endnote'') in CMS 15 and Mills for the BYU online books and see if the two differ. [[User:RobertRaymondUT|Robert]] 17:44, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
Per Thomas Lerman's suggestion, I've created a sample Mills citation to a BYU online book. I've needed a page here in the wiki to teach a little bit about Mills citation formats, so I created a [[Citations (Mills Style)|Mills citation page]] and put the [[Citations (Mills Style)#Historical_Books|BYU Family History Archives book example]] on it. | |||
Here is the citation per Mills. While it is longer, it includes several aspects important in the field of genealogy: 1. declares the copy to be images, which carries more evidentiary weight. 2. includes enough information to find the source again after the URL breaks, which Mills accepts as highly probable.<br> | |||
<blockquote>'''Note:''' 1. Samuel Raymond, compiler, ''Genealogies of the Raymond families of New England, 1630-1 to 1886: With a Historical Sketch of Some of the Raymonds of Early Times ''(New York: J. J. Little and Co., 1886), 143; digital images, ''Family History Archives'' (http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ : BYU, 2008).</blockquote><blockquote>'''Bibliography: '''Raymond, Samuel, compiler. ''Genealogies of the Raymond families of New England, 1630-1 to 1886: With a Historical Sketch of Some of the Raymonds of Early Times''. New York: J. J. Little and Co., 1886. Digital images. ''Family History Archives''. http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ : BYU, 2008.<br> </blockquote> | |||
Here is the citation per CMS 15th ed.<ref>''The Chicago Manual of Style'' 15th ed. (Chicago and London: The University of Chicago Press, 2003), 686, CD-ROM Version 1.2.2.</ref> I'm not as familiar with CMS, so someone check me. I abbreviated BYU per CMS15, 673. | |||
<blockquote>'''Note:''' 1. Samuel Raymond, compiler, ''Genealogies of the Raymond families of New England, 1630-1 to 1886: With a Historical Sketch of Some of the Raymonds of Early Times ''(New York: J. J. Little and Co., 1886; BYU, 2008), 143, http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/u?/FH15,32222.</blockquote><blockquote>'''Bibliography:''' Raymond, Samuel, compiler. ''Genealogies of the Raymond families of New England, 1630-1 to 1886: With a Historical Sketch of Some of the Raymonds of Early Times. ''New York: J. J. Little and Co., 1886; BYU, 2008. http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/u?/FH15,32222.<br> </blockquote> | |||
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