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:Sorry, no solutions proposed, just more problems stated.[[User:Alan|Alan]] 22:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)  
:Sorry, no solutions proposed, just more problems stated.[[User:Alan|Alan]] 22:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)  
:These are great points, Alan Here are some comments:  
 
:I disagree with #2. Having to reach consensus to agree on whether a guideline is even needed seems like having a meeting to plan a meeting. Seems overly bureaucratic. Instead, I think the litmus test for whether a guideline is needed is A) whether anyone joins in the discussion and B) whether some join in by saying "It's silly that we're talking about making rules about this issue."  
These are great points, Alan. Here are some comments:  
:Regarding #3 and 5, I believe in Wikipedia there is no end of a congressional session, as it were. In other words, I don't think there is a time limit between when a user opens discussion on an issue and when it must be voted on. In fact, Wikipedia lets users put their own time limits on issues, ostensibly so that if a user is concerned enough about an issue to raise it, that usually means he is relying on a timely decision so he can go forward with a project.  
 
:Regarding #4, I think the original proposer will have the vested interest to post the consensus decision on the appropriate page.
*I disagree with number 2. Having to reach consensus to agree on whether a guideline is even needed seems like having a meeting to plan a meeting. Seems overly bureaucratic. Instead, I think the litmus test for whether a guideline is needed is A) whether anyone joins in the discussion and B) whether some join in by saying "It's silly that we're talking about making rules about this issue."  
:#8 feels litigious. If we want a policy changed or deleted, why not just add an argument to the discussion page?
*Regarding number 3 and 5, I believe in Wikipedia there is no end of a congressional session, as it were. In other words, I don't think there is a time limit between when a user opens discussion on an issue and when it must be voted on. In fact, Wikipedia lets users put their own time limits on issues, ostensibly so that if a user is concerned enough about an issue to raise it, that usually means he is relying on a timely decision so he can go forward with a project.  
*Regarding number 4, I think the original proposer will have the vested interest to post the consensus decision on the appropriate page.
*Number 8 feels litigious. If we want a policy changed or deleted, why not just add an argument to the discussion page?  
:[[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 22:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:[[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 22:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


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