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The 1666 and 1668 lists were so faint, no names could be read - there was just a line here, a blob of ink there.  Perhaps in the originals more could be read.  That does happen sometimes, considering these records are over 300 years old.  
The 1666 and 1668 lists were so faint, no names could be read - there was just a line here, a blob of ink there.  Perhaps in the originals more could be read.  That does happen sometimes, considering these records are over 300 years old.  


Jôns Torson and wife (1 1&nbsp; _ _ _) appear in the extant 1670, 1671, 1672, and 1675 lists - still residing at Henckelstorp.&nbsp; In 1672, a possible brother of&nbsp;Jôns and Asmund appears i.e.&nbsp;a Måns Thorson and wife, also&nbsp;listed at Henckelstorp.&nbsp; They did not&nbsp;appear before that, and they never appear after.&nbsp; That shows again why <u>'''''it is so very important''''' once you have begun a&nbsp;tax list search, to search every extant year, and a&nbsp;wide time frame.</u>
Jôns Torson and wife (1 1&nbsp; _ _ _) appear in the extant 1670, 1671, 1672, and 1675 lists - still residing at Henckelstorp.&nbsp; In 1672, a possible brother of&nbsp;Jôns and Asmund appears i.e.&nbsp;a Måns Thorson and wife, also&nbsp;listed at Henckelstorp.&nbsp; They did not&nbsp;appear before that, and they never appear after.&nbsp; That shows again why <u>'''''it is so very important''''' once you have begun a&nbsp;tax list search, to search every extant year, and a&nbsp;wide time frame.</u>  


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The next available list was 1680 where we started,&nbsp;&nbsp;Jôns Torson and Asmund Torson are both listed as single taxables i.e. no wives&nbsp;being taxed.&nbsp; Perhaps that is the year&nbsp;Jôns wife died, and Asmund had not yet married.&nbsp; We can't say for sure, as the parish registers don't exist, but, the supposition has some merit.  
The next available list was 1680 where we started the search in the tax lists. (See Step _____)&nbsp;&nbsp;Jôns Torson and Asmund Torson are both listed as single taxables i.e. no wives&nbsp;being taxed.&nbsp; Perhaps that is the year&nbsp;Jôns first wife died, and Asmund had not yet married.&nbsp; We can't say for sure, as the parish registers don't exist, but, the supposition has some merit.  


We began the study by trying to find the birth place of Elena Asmundsdotter, born in a parish other than where she had the direct ancestor, and died.&nbsp;&nbsp;The clue found in her death record in Barsebäck parish, plus information found in the church registers of Västra Karaby parish, plus the tax list&nbsp;information has given a good outline of her ancestry.&nbsp; However, we wanted to find more to now fill in the outline.  
Remember, we began the study by trying to find the birth place of Elena Asmundsdotter.&nbsp; She had the direct ancestor in&nbsp;Barsebäck parish.&nbsp; Elena also died there - but she wasn't born there.&nbsp;&nbsp;The clue found in her death record in&nbsp;Barsebäck parish, plus information found in the church registers of Västra Karaby parish, plus the tax list&nbsp;information has given a good outline of her ancestry to this point.&nbsp; However, we wanted to find more to now fill in the outline.  


The catechism records were those next searched.&nbsp;&nbsp;A study of the record shows it listed heads of household where a confirmation age child (children) resided, whether that was their own child (children), or the farmhands and farmgirls working for them, It is possible the head of the house was responsible for seeing that these young people knew their Lutheran catechism.
The catechism records were those next searched.&nbsp;&nbsp;These are found in the Family History Library Catalog under the name of the parish - Church Records&nbsp; {pull in link}


For&nbsp;Västra Karaby parish the lists useful for our searches were those of&nbsp;1696, 13 Jun 1699 and 4 Jul 1701.&nbsp; Each list was completley searched.&nbsp; As was hoped, the information found did allow us to&nbsp;fill in more of the family members:


1696&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jôns Christensson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; son Thor Jönsson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (knows) 4 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Läser i Bok (can read in the Bible)


&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; wife '''''Nilla Thorsdtr&nbsp;'''''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dau Karna Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "
A study of the record for&nbsp;Västra Karaby parish shows, at least here,&nbsp;the format was to list the&nbsp;heads of household and the names&nbsp;where a confirmation age child (children) resided, whether that was their own child (children), or the farmhands and farmgirls working for them, It is possible the head of the house was responsible for seeing that these young people knew their Lutheran catechism.


&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Lisebeet&nbsp;Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "
For&nbsp;Västra Karaby parish the lists useful for our searches were those of&nbsp;1696 (no date), 13 Jun 1699 and 4 Jul 1701.&nbsp; Each list was completley searched.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the names of the farms and villages were not listed, so we&nbsp;searched for the first and patronymic names we knew.&nbsp;&nbsp;As was hoped, the information found did allow us to&nbsp;fill in more of the family members!:


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1696&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jôns Christensson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; son Thor Jönsson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (knows) 4 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Läser i Bok (can read in the Bible)


Jôns Thorson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;son Anders&nbsp;Jônsson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; wife '''''Nilla Thorsdtr&nbsp;'''''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dau Karna Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "  


wife Järtrud Andersdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Anna Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Lisebeet&nbsp;Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "  


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Asmun Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Boeld Asmunsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "&nbsp; (possibly a younger child who hadn't
Jôns Thorson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;son Anders&nbsp;Jônsson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "


wife Nilla&nbsp;Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstiene Asmunsdtr<span id="fck_dom_range_temp_1238606692558_224" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 part&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;had the opportunity of learning&nbsp;
wife Järtrud Andersdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Anna Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "


&nbsp;('''this is the&nbsp;only record which lists Asmund's wife's'''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the whole catechism yet - ditto for
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'''maiden name)'''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kierstiene)
Asmun Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Boeld Asmunsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "&nbsp; (possibly a younger child who hadn't


wife Nilla&nbsp;Jönsdtr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstiene Asmunsdtr<span id="fck_dom_range_temp_1238606692558_224" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 part&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;had the opportunity of learning&nbsp;


&nbsp;('''this is the&nbsp;only record which lists Asmund's wife's'''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the whole catechism yet - ditto for


1699&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Asmun Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (note that this year, the record keeper decided '''not to list '''the names of the wives, only the head
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'''maiden name)'''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kierstiene)


&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Boeld&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of household and those who were being tested on their knowledge of the catechism)
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstena
1699&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Asmun Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (note that this year, the record keeper decided '''not to list '''the names of the wives, only the head


Jôns Torson
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Boeld&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of household and those who were being tested on their knowledge of the catechism)


son Anners
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstena


dau Anne
Jôns Torson


son Anners


dau Anne


4 Jul 1701
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Jôns Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; son Anners&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Anna
4 Jul 1701
 
Jôns Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; son Anners&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Anna  


Asmund Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstena
Asmund Torson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dau Kierstena


=== ⇒Sixth research step - Go back to the parish registers and search death and marriage records to fill in as much&nbsp;information as&nbsp;possible&nbsp;in the pedigree and family group sheet. ===
=== ⇒Sixth research step - Go back to the parish registers and search death and marriage records to fill in as much&nbsp;information as&nbsp;possible&nbsp;in the pedigree and family group sheet. ===
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