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MeetingPlace ID: 7770; [http://meetingplace.ldschurch.org/a/70ec431dabb0d9bd3506f4e1fe658fa7 Join the meeting]; Dial-in number: 877-453-7266  '''1 p.m. Mountain time on Thursdays'''
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:*Updating the discussions and proposals page<br>
:*Updating the discussions and proposals page<br>


=== Kudos go to ...&nbsp; ===
=== Kudos go to ...  ===
 
Jane Colmenares for creating the form and concept of '''Submit Wiki Content'''


=== Updates and follow up  ===
=== Updates and follow up  ===
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=== Community Council Report  ===
=== Community Council Report  ===
*Discussed the council minutes  
 
*Discussed the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Community Council/Minutes|council minutes]]
*David talked about the Wiki in 2 presentation - immigration topics where Wiki was used.
*David talked about the Wiki in 2 presentation - immigration topics where Wiki was used.
Tom Jones thinks the Wiki will become one of the most important tools genealogists will use.
 
Tom Jones thinks the Wiki will become one of the most important tools genealogists will use.  


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*[https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0pfh93r0jiwjqt/Denmark%20on%20the%20Wiki.pdf New design for US state &amp; country pages]? -- [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:VasquezJL|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/VasquezJL|contribs]]}} 18:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)  
*[https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0pfh93r0jiwjqt/Denmark%20on%20the%20Wiki.pdf New design for US state &amp; country pages]? -- [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:VasquezJL|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/VasquezJL|contribs]]}} 18:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)  
**When people come to state/country pages, they don't pay attention to the topics column: redesign so it is organized differently -- the entire page becomes more of a table of contents
**[http://www.balsamiq.com/ Balsamig] was used to mock up the page.
**Questioned that the premise was accurate. Personal experience in teaching people to use the Wiki. Others have not experienced the problem
**Premise: When people come to state/country pages, they don't pay attention to the topics column: redesign so it is organized differently -- the entire page becomes more of a table of contents. Result of personal experience in teaching people to use the Wiki.
**eye tracking - people who are used to the Wiki use the topics list; what about first-time users. Can we integrate the links into sections on the page --
***It was questioned whether the premise was accurate. Others on the call have not experienced the problem  
**User testing -- they would look for birth, marriage, and death -- (and parents)
***People who are used to the Wiki use the topics list; what about first-time users; eye tracking?
**User testing suggested. Play with it. Mock up and test various ways
**What about putting a [[Template:New York|navigation box]] at the top of state pages? so much on it is intimidating. Horizontal layout seems to be more intimidating.
**Screen space (above the fold) is precious.  
**Screen space (above the fold) is precious.  
**Wiki is not for beginner to genealogy, but a Wiki beginner
**Concerned that we sacrifice the usefulness for wiki users for the new wiki users.  
**Navigation box at the top of state pages: so much on it would be intimidating
**Wiki is not for a beginner to genealogy, but a Wiki beginner
**Concerned that we sacrifice the usefulness for wiki users for the new wiki users.
***Beginners in genealogy would look for birth, marriage, and death (and parents)
**Idea: when researching for a certain record type
***Most-used and useful records above the fold. Really useful ones first is helpful.  
**Most-used records would be above the fold. Really useful ones first. Pull those out is helpful.
***Be careful with "most usable records." Most success comes under other topics. Researchers probably have already exhausted the commonly-used. It's the records that are not common and the explanations for them that makes the Wiki so valuable.  
**Careful with most usable. Most success under other topics. Researchers probably have already exhausted the commonly-used. It's the records that are not common and explanations
*Citation coding removed from Historical Records pages. Coverage tables added to HR pages. [[User:HoranDM|Dorothy Horan, User Guidance Supervisor]] 18:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)  
**horizontal layout is more intimidating.
**Citation bibdesc coding has been removed for automated citations. Now they are created by Dorothy's group, and loaded manually. There is a generic default that appears until one better one is created. The Wiki and the Historical Collection citations are "divorced" so the citation in the Wiki does not always agree. They are working on it.  
**Play with it and have it user tested
**When click copy, it starts right out with the url -- which is not the most important thing to the genealogist  
**Program called [http://www.balsamiq.com/ Balsamig] was used to mock up.
**21 [[Alabama County Marriages (FamilySearch Historical Records)#Coverage_Table|coverage tables]] have been added to indexed collections. Seeking feedback on layout.
**Mock up and test various ways
***Have heard more comments about content of the table than the look of it. How generated? data that collection ops sent to Dorothy's team which they upload to the Wiki; Nathan did his manually. Gaps discovered. Give feedback through FS or email HoranDM@FamilySearch.org  
*Citation coding removed from Historical Records pages. Coverage tables added to HR pages. [[User:HoranDM|Dorothy Horan, User Guidance Supervisor]] 18:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
*The new link on the right [[FamilySearch Wiki:Content Submission Form|'''Submit Wiki Content''']]. Allows people to [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFlES2FLbHFwNHFJV054RWtaNUEwRnc6MQ type content in], and someone will submit it.  
**Citation bibdesc coding has been removed for automated citations. Now they are created by Dorothy's group, and loaded manually. There is a generic default that appears until. They are "divorced" so the citation in the Wiki does not always agree. Working on it.
**When click copy, it starts right out with the url -- which is not the most important thing to the genealogist
**21 coverage tables have been added to indexed collections. Have heard more comments about content of the table than the look of it. How generated: data that collection ops sent to Dorothy's team which they upload to the Wiki; Nathan did his manually. Gaps discovered. Feedback through FS or email HoranDM@FamilySearch.org
*Really likes the new link on the right that says '''Submit Wiki Content'''. Allows people to [[FamilySearch Wiki:Content Submission Form|type content in]], and someone will submit it.  
**Kudos to Jane for the idea - finally it is on. Volunteers have been submitting. When Janell is ready with enough volunteers, have Nathan do a blog to advertise this.
**Kudos to Jane for the idea - finally it is on. Volunteers have been submitting. When Janell is ready with enough volunteers, have Nathan do a blog to advertise this.


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==== '''Priority items for this meeting:'''  ====
==== '''Priority items for this meeting:'''  ====
*'''Item: &nbsp;Collapsible Nav Boxes &nbsp;[[User:Kehoemw/Sandbox2|See Example]]&nbsp;'''on Mike Kehoe's Sandbox'''&nbsp;'''
:*'''Goal for this item''': Do we want to use them on the wiki?
:*'''Steps to achieve this goal:'''
:*'''Assignments and dates of completion:'''
:*'''Evaluation date:'''


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* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
* Move issues to decision.<br>
* Move issues to decision.<br>
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