Template talk:FHL

Display type and CD examples

Please allow a way to show whether the item is a Book, Film, Fiche, or CD-ROM in the call number. For example, FHL Book 973 X2Lai, or FHL Film 203621. Diltsgd 14:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting. The plan is to allow those at an absolute minimum. Do you have an example of CD-ROM? I know the microfiche have numbers just like the microfilm. I have requested an extension that will make some of this easier. I have wondered if a need exists for locality look-ups, showing summary vs. details, etc. Thomas Lerman 14:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Examples:

CD-ROM no. 1198

CD-ROM no. 9 pt. 453 disc 6

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by a locality look-up, summary, or details. I hope a user who clicks an FHLC number in the Wiki is taken to the the FHLC Title Details screen in most cases, and for long lists of film or fiche numbers to the FHLC Film Notes screen. Diltsgd 15:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I just realized something else you said. You requested the type to be displayed (film, book, CD, etc.). According to consensus in the Manual of Style (as long as I understood it correctly), the media type would not be displayed. If you feel this should be revisited, may I suggest that you put it on a community meeting agenda? It may be worth discussing more. A discussion on what I was referring to with summary or details is more like the questions I posed in the Microfilm section below. Thomas Lerman 18:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

For the above examples see the sections below for their results BooksMicrofilm / Fiche, and CDs. Thomas_Lerman 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Other Discussion

Other discussion may be viewed as part of the Manual of Style Thomas Lerman 18:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

This question or concern has been resolved. required #Replace: functionality

This template requires #Replace: functionality. This functionality is achieved through the StringFunctions within the ParserFunctions . . . may need an upgrade to ParserFunctions and definitely enable them. Thomas Lerman 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Microfilm / Fiche

Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article:

• Film: {{FHL{{{3}}}{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 203621
• Film: {{FHL{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 203621

Should microfilm {{FHL{{{3}}}{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produce which of the following (currently produces FHL 1059152)?

1. Film search results (with columns)
2. Film search results (without columns or colors)
3. Film search results (with colors, but no columns)
4. Title details
   1. See Title number
5. Title film notes
   1. See Title number
6. something else

Title number: The problems with the "Title details" and "Title film notes":

1. Requires a title number instead of the film number. I do not know if these are persistent.
2. The display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that these work this way.

Thomas Lerman 18:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Film number not working

Dsammy pointed out that some problem exists on Remich Commune, Luxembourg where you find the census in the FHLC, copy the film number (ie. 2398734), use this in {{FHL{{{3}}}{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} with this result. This link is not right. I found that I was testing some other thing and forgot to change it back. This uses title details which uses some other title number other the the film number. I should have been using (and am back there now) the Film Hit List similar to the Book Hit List where this same example produces this result. See comment in the CDs section concerning Title Numbers. Thomas_Lerman 16:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Long lists of films?

See FamilySearch Wiki:Guiding Principles and FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics (specifically Limited Topics). Maybe we need to have title numbers if they will be persistent??? Thomas_Lerman 17:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Books

Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article:

• Book: {{FHL{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 973 X2Lai

Should books {{FHL{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produce which of the following?

1. Call number search results ordered by call number
2. Call number search results ordered by title
3. Call number search results ordered by author
4. Title details
   1. This uses a title number instead of the call number. The title number is not implemented at this time.
   2. The problem with "Title details" is that the display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that this work this way.
5. something else

Thomas Lerman 19:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

CDs

Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article:

• Book: {{FHL{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 973 X2Lai
• Film: {{FHL{{{3}}}{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 203621
• Film: {{FHL{{{4}}}{{{5}}}{{{6}}}{{{7}}}{{{8}}}{{{9}}}{{{10}}}{{{11}}}...}} produces FHL 203621
• CDs: see CDs section

Two examples were given of CD examples above. However, the URL uses a title number that is not anywhere on the page. How would someone find a CD or the title number? Thomas Lerman 19:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Although this has never been answered, the template does not work for CDs at this time. Title numbers are not implemented at this time. I am waiting for comments from the FHLC engineers as posted in the forum.Thomas_Lerman 19:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject

Is there a need to be able to display anything from the FHLC based upon any of the items listed in the above heading? For example, New York City? Thomas Lerman 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Family History Library (FHL); now called, FamilySearch Library (FSL)