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The next available catechism list was 1720.  The only person living at Henckelstorp which we recognized as "ours" was Anders Jönsson, son of Jöns Thorsson.
The next available catechism list was 1720.  The only person living at Henckelstorp which we recognized as "ours" was Anders Jönsson, son of Jöns Thorsson.


=== ⇒Seventh research step - Go back to the parish registers and search death and marriage records to fill in as much information as possible on the pedigree and family group sheets, using the clues gained in the previous searches.  ===
=== ⇒Seventh research step - Go back to the parish registers and search death and marriage records to fill in as much information as possible on the family tree and family group sheets, using the clues gained in the previous searches.  ===


Since Pernilla Jönsdtr, widow of Asmund Torson did not show up on the 1720 tax list, she was either too old to be taxed, or ill, or had died between 1711 and 1720.  We chose the middle point of that time period to begin searching the death records.  We worked our way from 1715 to 1719.  On 24 Apr 1719 the entry was found which reads, "Cast earth upon Pernilla, Asmun Torsson's (who) died 18th of the same month, age 68 years" = born @1651.       
Since Pernilla Jönsdtr, widow of Asmund Torson did not show up on the 1720 tax list, she was either too old to be taxed, or ill, or had died between 1711 and 1720.  We chose the middle point of that time period to begin searching the death records.  We worked our way from 1715 to 1719.  On 24 Apr 1719 the entry was found which reads, "Cast earth upon Pernilla, Asmun Torsson's (who) died 18th of the same month, age 68 years" = born circa 1651.       


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Depending upon when Asmund and Pernilla married, (between @1671 and 1681 when Elena was born), there could be several more children belonging to the familiy.&nbsp; In fact, we know from the catechism records and the tax lists Elena had at least two siblings, Boeld and Kierstene.  
Depending upon when Asmund and Pernilla married, (between about 1671 and 1681 when Elena was born), there could be several more children belonging to the familiy.&nbsp; In fact, we know from the catechism records and the tax lists Elena had at least two siblings, Boeld and Kierstene.  


The&nbsp;child bearing years of Elena Asmundsdotter's mother, Pernilla, could range from @1664 to @1702, given her age at death.&nbsp; Accordingly, the first searches in the christening records of Vastra Karaby ran from 1688, when the records began, to 1703.&nbsp; Three additional siblings were found - Lars, Gertru and Jöns!&nbsp;&nbsp;There could have been 2 to 3 more children&nbsp;born between&nbsp;1681 when Elena was&nbsp;born, and 1688, when the parish registers began.&nbsp; If they survived to teen-age or beyond, their names could&nbsp;be picked up if they&nbsp;married in Västra Karaby parish, or, if they can be identified working on someone else's farm in the tax lists.  
The&nbsp;child bearing years of Elena Asmundsdotter's mother, Pernilla, could range from approximately 1664 to 1702, given her age at death.&nbsp; Accordingly, the first searches in the christening records of Vastra Karaby ran from 1688, when the records began, to 1703.&nbsp; Three additional siblings were found - Lars, Gertru and Jöns!&nbsp;&nbsp;There could have been 2 to 3 more children&nbsp;born between&nbsp;1681 when Elena was&nbsp;born, and 1688, when the parish registers began.&nbsp; If they survived to teen-age or beyond, their names could&nbsp;be picked up if they&nbsp;married in Västra Karaby parish, or, if they can be identified working on someone else's farm in the tax lists.  


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Jöns Torsson, Asmund's brother, and&nbsp;Jöns' wife Gertru disappeared off the tax rolls between 1705 and 1709.&nbsp; Searches of the death records began in 1705 since, if the tax list was taken early in the year, they could have died the latter part of the year. As the records show, both of them died in 1708.&nbsp; "10 Apr 1708 buried&nbsp;Jöns Torsson's wife Giertrud who died&nbsp;the 1st of April&nbsp; (after)&nbsp;becoming sick on 25 March.&nbsp; Age 66 years &amp; 20 weeks"&nbsp;= born @ Nov 1641.&nbsp;  
Jöns Torsson, Asmund's brother, and&nbsp;Jöns' wife Gertru disappeared off the tax rolls between 1705 and 1709.&nbsp; Searches of the death records began in 1705 since, if the tax list was taken early in the year, they could have died the latter part of the year. As the records show, both of them died in 1708.&nbsp; "10 Apr 1708 buried&nbsp;Jöns Torsson's wife Giertrud who died&nbsp;the 1st of April&nbsp; (after)&nbsp;becoming sick on 25 March.&nbsp; Age 66 years &amp; 20 weeks"&nbsp;= born approximately Nov of 1641.&nbsp;  


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Take note that here again, the surname of the deceased wife is not listed - only the fact that she was&nbsp;Jöns Torsson's wife.&nbsp;&nbsp; We only know her surname because it was given in the one year's catechism lists.&nbsp; If you want to get the whole story, and all the facts, you need to search every available record!  
Take note that here again, the surname of the deceased wife is not listed - only the fact that she was&nbsp;Jöns Torsson's wife.&nbsp;&nbsp; We only know her surname because it was given in the one year's catechism lists.&nbsp; If you want to get the whole story, and all the facts, you need to search every available record!  


"The 4th Dec (1708) cast earth upon&nbsp;Jöns Torsson of Henckelstorp who in the night between the 25th and 26th of November died; many years sick, bedridden 1 month.&nbsp; Age 85 years" = born @1623.  
"The 4th Dec (1708) cast earth upon&nbsp;Jöns Torsson of Henckelstorp who in the night between the 25th and 26th of November died; many years sick, bedridden 1 month.&nbsp; Age 85 years" = born circa 1623.  


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When&nbsp;Jöns Torsson and his brother Asmund Torsson's information is plotted out, ie.&nbsp;Jöns Torsson born @1623 and Asmund born @ 1644 as per their ages at death, it appears&nbsp;these two brothers may be the first and at least among the last&nbsp;children of Tor and Hanna or "??? It's also possible that Jöns had a different mother, since there is 20 + years between them.  
When&nbsp;Jöns Torsson and his brother Asmund Torsson's information is plotted out, ie.&nbsp;Jöns Torsson born about 1623 and Asmund born about 1644 as per their ages at death, it appears&nbsp;these two brothers may be the first and at least among the last&nbsp;children of Tor and Hanna or "??? It's also possible that Jöns had a different mother, since there is 20 + years between them.  


If any of&nbsp;Jöns and&nbsp;Asmund's&nbsp;siblings i.e. people surnamed "Torsson/Tordson" had had a 2nd or perhaps even third marriage in Västra Karaby, a search of those records could add more information to the family tree.&nbsp;&nbsp;The catechism lists had provided the name of at least one probable sister, "Nilla Torsdtr" wife of&nbsp;Jöns Christensson.&nbsp; There could still be other siblings, especially if a spouse had died and they had re-married, so a search of the marriage records ensued, covering the time period 1691 (when they began) to 1722.&nbsp;&nbsp;  
If any of&nbsp;Jöns and&nbsp;Asmund's&nbsp;siblings i.e. people surnamed "Torsson/Tordson" had had a 2nd or perhaps even third marriage in Västra Karaby, a search of those records could add more information to the family tree.&nbsp;&nbsp;The catechism lists had provided the name of at least one probable sister, "Nilla Torsdtr" wife of&nbsp;Jöns Christensson.&nbsp; There could still be other siblings, especially if a spouse had died and they had re-married, so a search of the marriage records ensued, covering the time period 1691 (when they began) to 1722.&nbsp;&nbsp;  
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29 Dec 1702 Jöns Larss. of Annelöf and (the) pyge of Henckelstorp, Anna Jönsdtr...father Jöns Torson  
29 Dec 1702 Jöns Larss. of Annelöf and (the) pyge of Henckelstorp, Anna Jönsdtr...father Jöns Torson  


2 Adv 1703&nbsp; Anders Jönsson i Henckelstorp and pyge Bengta Eßbjornsdtr&nbsp;  
**2 Adv 1703&nbsp; Anders Jönsson i Henckelstorp and pyge Bengta Eßbjornsdtr&nbsp;  


&nbsp;'''''(NOTE:&nbsp; In the 1720 tax lists&nbsp;Anders Jönsson'&nbsp;wife's name is Tören, so this is an apparent&nbsp;first marriage''''')  
&nbsp;'''''(NOTE:&nbsp; In the 1720 tax lists&nbsp;Anders Jönsson'&nbsp;wife's name is Tören, so this is an apparent&nbsp;first marriage''''')  
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These latter two are siblngs of Elena Asmundsdotter.&nbsp; As per<span id="fck_dom_range_temp_1239148454319_294" /> their approximated birth&nbsp;years, they appear to be among the older children born to Asmund Torsson and Pernille Jönsdtr.&nbsp;  
These latter two are siblngs of Elena Asmundsdotter.&nbsp; As per<span id="fck_dom_range_temp_1239148454319_294" /> their approximated birth&nbsp;years, they appear to be among the older children born to Asmund Torsson and Pernille Jönsdtr.&nbsp;  


With all the information found in the parish registers, tax lists, and catechism records, the pedigree line for Asmund Jönsson, born in Barsebäck parish, now looks like this:  
With all the information found in the parish registers, tax lists, and catechism records, the family tree branch for Asmund Jönsson, born in Barsebäck parish, now looks like this:  


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It is hoped this case study will give you ideas and direction as to how you might extend your pedigree lines beyond parish registers.&nbsp; If the records exist, search them!  
It is hoped this case study will give you ideas and direction as to how you might extend your own family tree lines beyond parish registers.&nbsp; If the records exist, search them!  


Obviously, such a study will not necessarily work if your ancestor is named Ola Olsson, and there are 4 or more of them in the parish at the same time.&nbsp;&nbsp;However, you don't know until you try - so, GO FOR IT!!!  
Obviously, such a study will not necessarily work if your ancestor is named Ola Olsson, and there are 4 or more of them in the parish at the same time.&nbsp;&nbsp;However, you don't know until you try - so, GO FOR IT!!!  


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