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 Note that&nbsp;[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Integrating Place Standards Database with FamilySearch Wiki|FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Integrating Place Standards Database with FamilySearch Wiki]] and&nbsp;[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives|FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives]] use the same naming and namespace conventions as projects on Wikipedia (see&nbsp;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_Alternative_Music Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music]).&nbsp;Sensible conventions, but long titles!&nbsp;Wikipedia's product namespace is simply "Wikipedia"&nbsp;where&nbsp;ours is "FamilySearch Wiki." Such a long namespace title bloats&nbsp;any title incorporating that namespace.
 And it may get worse: Months ago, under pressure from other managers who believe FamilySearch may have multiple wikis one day, wiki management renamed this wiki from FamilySearch Wiki to FamilySearch Research Wiki. By domino effect, that may force a change of our FamilySearch Wiki namespace to FamilySearch Research Wiki. Imagine a title '''FamilySearch Research Wiki:WikiProject Linking to Books in the BYU Family History Archives'''. Can you imagine if all the titles in the wiki's product namespace were all preceded with "FamilySearch Research Wiki:" -- wow, what long titles we'd have, Grandma! [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 23:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
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 [[User:G Fröberg Morris|G Fröberg Morris']]&nbsp;title&nbsp;[[FamilySearch Wikiproject: Danish Articles Needing Revision|FamilySearch Wikiproject: Danish Articles Needing Revision]] captures that the page is about a project and that the project is on FamilySearch Wiki (for outsiders doing a Google search).&nbsp;[[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 23:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
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 :If FamilySearch is thinking of having more than one Wiki, then the namespace "WikiProject" might be confused with the other Wikis. Maybe "Research WikiProject" would work, but it is long. I hope we get other ideas from the community. [[User:Franjensen|Franjensen]] 15:57, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
-::I can see the benefit of have a ''WikiProject'' or ''Project'' namespace. It would be helpful to understand what other FamilySearch wikis are in the pipeline and how they will effect the Research Wiki. Will they be part of the same MediaWiki installation, ie at ''wiki.familysearch.org'' sharing the same namespaces or will they be on a different server? Perhaps this wiki's server should be renamed ''researchwiki.familysearch.org''. Whatever is decided I have always thought that the namespace ''FamilySearch Wiki'' was too long and thought it would be useful to have an [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespace_alias namespace alias] like ''Project'' set-up. --[[User:CottrellS|Steve]] 00:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC):::The name researchwiki is not as well known as simple FamilySearch Wiki. In fact FamilySearch Wiki is used in all desktops in the Family History Library. The ONLY&nbsp;place where "Research" was used was somebody thought without consulting anyone in the Wiki team and went ahead to write and print this notice which is on every floor in the FHL.....<br>RESEARCH OUTLINES NOW AVAILABLE ON FAMILYSEARCH WIKI<br>For many years the Family History Library has published various esearch publications. Keeping these publications up-to-date has been difficult with the ever-increasing amounts of data being made available.<br>As a result, many of these publications that have not been updated for years will not be reprinted. Some publications will only be made available until existing stock is depleted.<br>To better meet the needs of those working on their family histories the Family History Library has created a new source of genealogical research information called '''FamilySearch Research Wiki'''. Information from vairous publications has been moved to the free wiki site found at : http://wiki.familysearch.org.<br><br>Whoever wrote that notice NEVER bothered to consult with anyone in the Wiki Team. Desktops say '''FamilySearch Wiki.<br>[[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 16:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
+::I can see the benefit of have a ''WikiProject'' or ''Project'' namespace. It would be helpful to understand what other FamilySearch wikis are in the pipeline and how they will effect the Research Wiki. Will they be part of the same MediaWiki installation, ie at ''wiki.familysearch.org'' sharing the same namespaces or will they be on a different server? Perhaps this wiki's server should be renamed ''researchwiki.familysearch.org''. Whatever is decided I have always thought that the namespace ''FamilySearch Wiki'' was too long and thought it would be useful to have an [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespace_alias namespace alias] like ''Project'' set-up. --[[User:CottrellS|Steve]] 00:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC):::The name researchwiki is not as well known as simple FamilySearch Wiki. In fact FamilySearch Wiki is used in all desktops in the Family History Library. The ONLY&nbsp;place where "Research" was used was somebody thought without consulting anyone in the Wiki team and went ahead to write and print this notice which is on every floor in the FHL.....<br>RESEARCH OUTLINES NOW AVAILABLE ON FAMILYSEARCH WIKI<br>For many years the Family History Library has published various esearch publications. Keeping these publications up-to-date has been difficult with the ever-increasing amounts of data being made available.<br>As a result, many of these publications that have not been updated for years will not be reprinted. Some publications will only be made available until existing stock is depleted.<br>To better meet the needs of those working on their family histories the Family History Library has created a new source of genealogical research information called '''FamilySearch Research Wiki'''. Information from vairous publications has been moved to the free wiki site found at&nbsp;: http://wiki.familysearch.org.<br><br>Whoever wrote that notice NEVER bothered to consult with anyone in the Wiki Team. Desktops say '''FamilySearch Wiki.<br>[[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 16:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)'''
 :I do not like the cumbersome names of projects as we are currently using them. I would like to see them shortened as much as possible and still retain a brief idea of the content of the project -- enough to draw potential contributors to that project. I would vote for a namespace of ''WikiProject'' (second choice ''Project'') with as short a title as possible following it. At the top of that project's page should be as brief statement of the scope and purpose of that project. Most potential contributors would be willing to click once to get to a page which describes the project in a little more detail, so they could decide whether or not they would like to contribute. I agree with the concern about confusing users of the Wiki by having the projects in the Main namespace and the potential problem of spamming the search results.[[User:Jbparker|Jbparker]] 05:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
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 All the good reasons to keep the urls short! [[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 16:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 :Bottom line, management team to watch every url as they are created and correct them as needed like the latest one you just saw, which could be reduced to simply "Coffin Plates".<br><br>Specific projects should always be simply WikiProject: or FSWikiProject: to avoid any potential confusion with the Wikipedia. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject].&nbsp; [[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 16:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)<br>
+I'm in favor of creating a separate project namespace, and I like Sammy's suggestion of FSWikiProject. [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]]