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[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah|Project Page]] [[WikiProject Utah Meeting Agendas|Meeting agendas]]  
[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah|Project Page]] [[WikiProject Utah Meeting Agendas|Meeting agendas]]  
=== 30 Nov 2011  ===
*Community Meetings
**Start holding Communitee Meetings 10 January.
**Patsy will set them up at MeetingPlace for the 6 months from January thru June. Wilma will provide the list of emails of people to invite.
**We do not have a welcome letter to welcome new volunteers contributers for Dawne to use when people respond to our invitations. That needs to be created. Who will create this?<br>
**Wilma has a list of UGA members by Zipcode we may be able to target to do research or add content.<br>
*What has happened
**Missionaries have been rearranging the topics on the county pages to match what has been done in New York.One change has been to put the history timeline under the history topic.<br>
**Users have been giving feedback on the Talk Page about formatting and topic names. Wilma has organized the feedback by topic.
**Schedule a meeting after Unit meeting on Wednesday with interested consultants to help create a Utah Church Page.<br>
*Treasure Hunt
**Marilyn is communicating with Danielle about the treasure hunt that is scheduled between March and May.
**Patsy will approach UGA at the Board Meeting on Saturday to see what prizes they could offer to the winners<br>
*Style Guide<br>
**Volunteers who have added content recently have done well, but some have made spelling and other small errors.
**Potential users need to know the style guide contents
**Our group needs to review the style guide and make our own comments about it.
**We thought of changing headings that didn't seem to apply as written to Western areas: one example was Poorhouses. We got some push-back on this. Perhaps rather than change change the headings, we could add a scope note to explain what to put there.<br>
*Wilma proposed that a group of individuals might adopt a project or a county, divide the work, add content, and cover the territory. This would be in addition to individual contributors. These grous should not act as a gestapo and exclude or regulate other contributors.<br>
*Wilma met with Kathy Palmer and the Bountiful Utah UGA chapter. Perhaps we could target other UGA chapters to help with Utah counties.Other chapters include Mormon Trails, Cedar City, Riverton
*Assignments:
**Marilyn will communicate with Danielle about the proposed treasure hunt to learn how she conducted it etc.<br>
**Patsy will set them up at MeetingPlace for the 6 months from January thru June. <br>
**Wilma will provide the list of emails of people to invite.<br>
**Patsy will approach UGA officers at the Board Meeting on Saturday to see what prizes they could offer to winners of the Treasure Hunt,<br>


=== 16 Nov 2011  ===
=== 16 Nov 2011  ===
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*No meeting next week
*No meeting next week


=== 9 Nov 2011<br> ===
=== 9 Nov 2011<br> ===


*Wilma has a list now of the UGA membership arranged by zip code. We did not review it. <br>
*Wilma has a list now of the UGA membership arranged by zip code. We did not review it. <br>  
*We reviewed meeting plan for tomorrow evening. Decided that Wilma would use the cemetery section of Beaver to demonstrate the Cemetery task. <br>
*We reviewed meeting plan for tomorrow evening. Decided that Wilma would use the cemetery section of Beaver to demonstrate the Cemetery task. <br>  
*Not all Utah counties are arranged in the format that was chosen as the standard. Wilma will make sure that happens.<br>
*Not all Utah counties are arranged in the format that was chosen as the standard. Wilma will make sure that happens.<br>  
*We determined to move Repositories to the end before the References and give them a separate heading<br>
*We determined to move Repositories to the end before the References and give them a separate heading<br>  
*We determined to add a link to the municipalities nav bar from the side menu bar. It is a template so the title in the nav box can't be changed. But since Utah has no municipalities, Wilma will change the ttle of the link to "towns". <br>
*We determined to add a link to the municipalities nav bar from the side menu bar. It is a template so the title in the nav box can't be changed. But since Utah has no municipalities, Wilma will change the ttle of the link to "towns". <br>  
*We reviewed the wording of the cemetery task and made a few suggestions which Wilma will implement.  
*We reviewed the wording of the cemetery task and made a few suggestions which Wilma will implement.  
*In preparation for the meeting, we arranged to have it recorded for those who would miss it. Patsy is one of those who will miss the meeting.
*In preparation for the meeting, we arranged to have it recorded for those who would miss it. Patsy is one of those who will miss the meeting.


Assignments<br>
Assignments<br>  


#Wilma will make sure county pages are in the standard format<br>
#Wilma will make sure county pages are in the standard format<br>  
#Wilma will move Repositories to the end before the References and make them a heading equal to Resources<br>
#Wilma will move Repositories to the end before the References and make them a heading equal to Resources<br>  
#Wilma will add a link to the municipalities nav bar from the side menu bar.<br>
#Wilma will add a link to the municipalities nav bar from the side menu bar.<br>  
#All of us will practice the cemeteries task with the intention of giving feedback.
#All of us will practice the cemeteries task with the intention of giving feedback.


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**5-10 minute overview and news  
**5-10 minute overview and news  
**10-15 minute training  
**10-15 minute training  
**Remaining time as Q&amp;A and hands-on practice&nbsp; <br>
**Remaining time as Q&amp;A and hands-on practice&nbsp; <br>  
**If there are meeting attendees who sign on late, it may be helpful to repeat at the end of the meeting some things that were said in the beginning. <br>
**If there are meeting attendees who sign on late, it may be helpful to repeat at the end of the meeting some things that were said in the beginning. <br>  
*Recruiting from UGA members: Wilma to contact Bud, Sue, and Carie&nbsp; to get member list by zip codeso she can identify people in different counties<br>
*Recruiting from UGA members: Wilma to contact Bud, Sue, and Carie&nbsp; to get member list by zip codeso she can identify people in different counties<br>  
*Dawne has two missionaries on her team training volunteers. She has contacted the people who volunteered from Logan. When we get the meeting set up, we will invite them.  
*Dawne has two missionaries on her team training volunteers. She has contacted the people who volunteered from Logan. When we get the meeting set up, we will invite them.  
*Marilyn has had experience with populating cemeteries in the States on wiki. That gives her some idea of what is needed in Utah cemeteries. She has also had experience working with volunteers and writing wiki instructions for them. She knows more than most how to write step-by-step instructions without being wordy.<br>
*Marilyn has had experience with populating cemeteries in the States on wiki. That gives her some idea of what is needed in Utah cemeteries. She has also had experience working with volunteers and writing wiki instructions for them. She knows more than most how to write step-by-step instructions without being wordy.<br>
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**Much of this Utah Project page was patterned after New York which is being organized  
**Much of this Utah Project page was patterned after New York which is being organized  
**We will change some of wording to better reflect Utah  
**We will change some of wording to better reflect Utah  
**Still a work in progress so contents and TOC may change
**Still a work in progress so contents and TOC may change  
*Reviewed Project guidelines  
*Reviewed Project guidelines  
*Document every guideline we add with a date  
*Document every guideline we add with a date  
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***Google books  
***Google books  
***Internet Archives.  
***Internet Archives.  
***FHL Subjects
***FHL Subjects  
**We need to have James involved  
**We need to have James involved  
**Explain forums where people can discuss changes  
**Explain forums where people can discuss changes  
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*Add tasks planned but not ready to Project page  
*Add tasks planned but not ready to Project page  
**Cemeteries is nearly ready  
**Cemeteries is nearly ready  
**Look at Ballard KY for a good example of Cemeteries.
**Look at Ballard KY for a good example of Cemeteries.  
*How does UGA gain visibility?  
*How does UGA gain visibility?  
**Adoption template on pages with link to website  
**Adoption template on pages with link to website  
**Add the UGA template to user page
**Add the UGA template to user page  
*Don't add a template if a topic on the county page contains no records  
*Don't add a template if a topic on the county page contains no records  
*USGenWeb should be searched for contents, but don't add it as a link unless it really has enough content to warrant it  
*USGenWeb should be searched for contents, but don't add it as a link unless it really has enough content to warrant it  
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'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  
'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  


*MJM got the answer to the FHLC template that allows tou to link to a place and a subject such as "Utah, Beaver, vital records. We'll have to see how it treats Utah alone, since it's both a state and a county.. WA updated the Beaver County Talk page with those links and is completing the FHL task.She will move it to a WikiProject page.<br>
*MJM got the answer to the FHLC template that allows tou to link to a place and a subject such as "Utah, Beaver, vital records. We'll have to see how it treats Utah alone, since it's both a state and a county.. WA updated the Beaver County Talk page with those links and is completing the FHL task.She will move it to a WikiProject page.<br>  
*WA reformatted and copied Beaver County on it's talk page. Will discuss in meeting  
*WA reformatted and copied Beaver County on it's talk page. Will discuss in meeting  
*MJM Utah adoption sign: report of Diane Loose's reply  
*MJM Utah adoption sign: report of Diane Loose's reply  
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'''Assignments from 21 Sep still to accomplish'''  
'''Assignments from 21 Sep still to accomplish'''  


*WA to contact James Tanner well before meeting on the Oct 12thShe will also send a preliminary invitation to others whoare invited.<br>
*WA to contact James Tanner well before meeting on the Oct 12thShe will also send a preliminary invitation to others whoare invited.<br>  
*DH will schedule the meeting throught MeetingPlace and send invitations and details for signing into the meeting.  
*DH will schedule the meeting throught MeetingPlace and send invitations and details for signing into the meeting.  
*WA will finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance  
*WA will finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance  
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**Patsy will present this. Give heads-up about Treasure Hunt. Suggest Prizes gicen by UGA. Photo Contest posibility to get good pictures on the wiki. Advertise wiki through member emails. Identify Chapter heads. Get member list sorted by Zip Code to more effectively target our audience for pictures, info, etc.  
**Patsy will present this. Give heads-up about Treasure Hunt. Suggest Prizes gicen by UGA. Photo Contest posibility to get good pictures on the wiki. Advertise wiki through member emails. Identify Chapter heads. Get member list sorted by Zip Code to more effectively target our audience for pictures, info, etc.  
**Suggest Utah Wiki be scheduled as a virtual chapter meeting  
**Suggest Utah Wiki be scheduled as a virtual chapter meeting  
**Find out who is into Social media who can help spread the Utah wiki word.
**Find out who is into Social media who can help spread the Utah wiki word.  
*Meeting w/consultants, etc next week:  
*Meeting w/consultants, etc next week:  
**Logistics: Wilma will spearhead the meeting. Marylan will run the computer.  
**Logistics: Wilma will spearhead the meeting. Marylan will run the computer.  
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**Agenda, flow of the meeting: Look at Beaver to identify what else to add, what to reword. Refer attendees to the items of style. Church section in Utah will be addressed in a later Braonstorm. Make comments on Discussion Pages. We'll have an official Kickoff for Utah wiki soon after Logan. Patsy will handle the two sentences that Church topics won't be left out.  
**Agenda, flow of the meeting: Look at Beaver to identify what else to add, what to reword. Refer attendees to the items of style. Church section in Utah will be addressed in a later Braonstorm. Make comments on Discussion Pages. We'll have an official Kickoff for Utah wiki soon after Logan. Patsy will handle the two sentences that Church topics won't be left out.  
**This meeting will focus on County Pages. We need to schedule a separate one for State Topics. Perhsaps even a third could focus on general topics.  
**This meeting will focus on County Pages. We need to schedule a separate one for State Topics. Perhsaps even a third could focus on general topics.  
**Issues with wiki work. Two can't work on same area and save. First one saves - the other doesn't. Save often - every 5 minutes, Don't stay on a page long. Have tracking sheet.
**Issues with wiki work. Two can't work on same area and save. First one saves - the other doesn't. Save often - every 5 minutes, Don't stay on a page long. Have tracking sheet.  
*WA will work with Danielle to organize a treasure hunt for Utah sources, similar to what was done in Illinois and soon to be in New York. That will likely be done at the first of the year.  
*WA will work with Danielle to organize a treasure hunt for Utah sources, similar to what was done in Illinois and soon to be in New York. That will likely be done at the first of the year.  
*We may want to set up a Social Group on FS Forums.  
*We may want to set up a Social Group on FS Forums.  
*'''UGA Board Meeting'''  
*'''UGA Board Meeting'''  
**[[Talk:Beaver County, Utah|Beaver County Talk page]]
**[[Talk:Beaver County, Utah|Beaver County Talk page]]  
*Class Oct 15 in Logan
*Class Oct 15 in Logan


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*Style guide
*Style guide


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=== 31 Aug 2011  ===
=== 31 Aug 2011  ===
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*UGA Board Meeting  
*UGA Board Meeting  
**Website  
**Website  
**Wilma cannot create new pages or edit at the top of a page. Please do the edit for me on the WikiProject Utah page: Assignment for Patsy and Marilyn
**Wilma cannot create new pages or edit at the top of a page. Please do the edit for me on the WikiProject Utah page: Assignment for Patsy and Marilyn  
*Fixed links to USGenWeb sites Beaver county [[Beaver County, Utah#Military|Military]] and [[Beaver County, Utah#Vital_Records|Vital]].  
*Fixed links to USGenWeb sites Beaver county [[Beaver County, Utah#Military|Military]] and [[Beaver County, Utah#Vital_Records|Vital]].  
*Links are being made from county under local history to the Marriott Library Digital Collections for each county.
*Links are being made from county under local history to the Marriott Library Digital Collections for each county.
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*Do we want to set some guidelines about how many entries a site should have before it is linked to?  
*Do we want to set some guidelines about how many entries a site should have before it is linked to?  
**If the county has a lot of resources, we would not do one with only 3. Guidelines: time of making the link, value to the user, importance in relation to other sources. You make the choice, but explain to the user.
**If the county has a lot of resources, we would not do one with only 3. Guidelines: time of making the link, value to the user, importance in relation to other sources. You make the choice, but explain to the user.  
*Project going to each section in the FHLC.  
*Project going to each section in the FHLC.  
*Meetings needed with the Utah/LDS experts.  
*Meetings needed with the Utah/LDS experts.  
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**Consider the time period  
**Consider the time period  
**Consider the place  
**Consider the place  
**If a record with few entries was listed, it shouls appear lower on the list
**If a record with few entries was listed, it shouls appear lower on the list  
*Follow up: UGA board meeting this Friday. Patsy will present info on the Utah project pages and wanted suggestions on what to share. She will show the project pages. She also plans to have a blurb about the Utah wiki project for the website that connects to an email allowing people to volunteer. We would like the FamilySearch link to go to the Utah wiki page. Or there should be a third&nbsp;link that connects to the Utah wiki.  
*Follow up: UGA board meeting this Friday. Patsy will present info on the Utah project pages and wanted suggestions on what to share. She will show the project pages. She also plans to have a blurb about the Utah wiki project for the website that connects to an email allowing people to volunteer. We would like the FamilySearch link to go to the Utah wiki page. Or there should be a third&nbsp;link that connects to the Utah wiki.  
*Follow up: Pat - would she listen to recordings or are minutes sufficient? Probably not. but each week we will ask to see if she will be able to sign in remotely.  
*Follow up: Pat - would she listen to recordings or are minutes sufficient? Probably not. but each week we will ask to see if she will be able to sign in remotely.  
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*Illinois county pages — what to incorporate [https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?t=7793 Forum thread -Proposed Modification to County Page categories/topics] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject U.S. counties example|U.S. counties example]] .  
*Illinois county pages — what to incorporate [https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?t=7793 Forum thread -Proposed Modification to County Page categories/topics] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject U.S. counties example|U.S. counties example]] .  
**Illinois community has decided to put all repositories, including court houses, as well as societies and museums at the bottom of the page. And they've reorganized the repositories' grouping. Their thinking is that users want records - especially online ones - before they want to know repositories, We do not have to follow this lead. In fact we will not worry about that at this time. Instead we will focusing our time on content. Organization will come later.  
**Illinois community has decided to put all repositories, including court houses, as well as societies and museums at the bottom of the page. And they've reorganized the repositories' grouping. Their thinking is that users want records - especially online ones - before they want to know repositories, We do not have to follow this lead. In fact we will not worry about that at this time. Instead we will focusing our time on content. Organization will come later.  
**One decision Illinois made that we don't like is to make many Level 2 heading. Supposedly text and pictures can wrap around them, but this is not the case. Also they chose a heading to begin the county page content that doesn't make sense in the content of the content that follows. The heading was "[County name] County Organization." Then what follows i a table listing when varios record types began. Patsy will, however, get wid of level 2 headigs in usah.
**One decision Illinois made that we don't like is to make many Level 2 heading. Supposedly text and pictures can wrap around them, but this is not the case. Also they chose a heading to begin the county page content that doesn't make sense in the content of the content that follows. The heading was "[County name] County Organization." Then what follows i a table listing when varios record types began. Patsy will, however, get wid of level 2 headigs in usah.  
*Start a Preferred formats section on the main project page? After saying we would focus on adding content in the last bullet, we would like to identify some standard formats for entering data. This&nbsp;could become a style guide of sorts  
*Start a Preferred formats section on the main project page? After saying we would focus on adding content in the last bullet, we would like to identify some standard formats for entering data. This&nbsp;could become a style guide of sorts  
**Use bullets for each item?  
**Use bullets for each item?  
**List statewide items under each county? or link to a page that lists them?
**List statewide items under each county? or link to a page that lists them?  
*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks GenWeb Links|UT GenWeb task]]: is it ready? Not until we have some guidelines for sites we link to. We will discuss that next week.  
*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks GenWeb Links|UT GenWeb task]]: is it ready? Not until we have some guidelines for sites we link to. We will discuss that next week.  
*County church info, The project is not  
*County church info, The project is not  
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=== 29 July 2011  ===
=== 29 July 2011  ===


Wilma out of town (camping)<br>
Wilma out of town (camping)<br>  


'''Follow up on previous meeting(s)'''  
'''Follow up on previous meeting(s)'''  


*Dawne schedule a physical place to meet.  
*Dawne schedule a physical place to meet.  
**Results:Done.&nbsp; We will meet in the 3rd floor glass room through December 2011.&nbsp; We can use the phone 801-240-3120.&nbsp; If the phone isn't in the glass room, we need to get the phone from the drawer in the cabinet by the photocopier inside the doors to the administration area.<br>
**Results:Done.&nbsp; We will meet in the 3rd floor glass room through December 2011.&nbsp; We can use the phone 801-240-3120.&nbsp; If the phone isn't in the glass room, we need to get the phone from the drawer in the cabinet by the photocopier inside the doors to the administration area.<br>  
*Possible change in meeting time to allow Pat to attend. A possible time is 2:15 on Tuesdays, Wilma will attend through MeetingPlace.  
*Possible change in meeting time to allow Pat to attend. A possible time is 2:15 on Tuesdays, Wilma will attend through MeetingPlace.  
**Results:We will need to keep Wednesdays at 9:30am because of conflicts.&nbsp; Pat may be able to call in using the above numbers.
**Results:We will need to keep Wednesdays at 9:30am because of conflicts.&nbsp; Pat may be able to call in using the above numbers.  
*Dawne Set up Meeting Place so it is recorded.  
*Dawne Set up Meeting Place so it is recorded.  
**Results: MeetingPlace was set up. Verify that it is automatically recorded. It will be recorded except when we don't use Meeting Place, like today.<br>
**Results: MeetingPlace was set up. Verify that it is automatically recorded. It will be recorded except when we don't use Meeting Place, like today.<br>  
*Wilma create a place to keep minutes.  
*Wilma create a place to keep minutes.  
**Results: Done. It is called WikiProject Utah Meeting Notes.
**Results: Done. It is called WikiProject Utah Meeting Notes.  
*Wilma read Patsy's article about the Utah adopting for UGA Crossroads.  
*Wilma read Patsy's article about the Utah adopting for UGA Crossroads.  
**Results: Wilma hopes to accomplish this before going camping. (Wilma's comments)&nbsp; She did this and approved the article.<br>
**Results: Wilma hopes to accomplish this before going camping. (Wilma's comments)&nbsp; She did this and approved the article.<br>  
*Wilma update the instructions for linking as discussed in the meeting.  
*Wilma update the instructions for linking as discussed in the meeting.  
**Results: Done. See [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Adding_Links|Adding Links]] Dawne is testing the instructions to see if they are clear and correct.
**Results: Done. See [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Adding_Links|Adding Links]] Dawne is testing the instructions to see if they are clear and correct.  
*Patsy post minutes of today's meeting.  
*Patsy post minutes of today's meeting.  
**Results: Done. see 20 July 2011 on this page.
**Results: Done. see 20 July 2011 on this page.  
*Wilma will make the changes suggested for the County History task.  
*Wilma will make the changes suggested for the County History task.  
**Results: Made a number of changes, especially to ''Where to find the information'' [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks County History|Tasks County History]] I believe the task got a little easier to accomplish.  
**Results: Made a number of changes, especially to ''Where to find the information'' [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks County History|Tasks County History]] I believe the task got a little easier to accomplish.  
**Please review them and comment on the discussion page and sign with four tildes.  
**Please review them and comment on the discussion page and sign with four tildes.  
**Completed&nbsp;[[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] to test the instructions.
**Completed&nbsp;[[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] to test the instructions.  
*Wilma will add a section called "Tasks Waiting in the Wings".  
*Wilma will add a section called "Tasks Waiting in the Wings".  
**Results: Done. See the WikiProject Utah page.
**Results: Done. See the WikiProject Utah page.  
*Patsy and Marilyn agreed to complete the Courthouse tasks they signed up for.  
*Patsy and Marilyn agreed to complete the Courthouse tasks they signed up for.  
**Results:Not done.<br>
**Results:Not done.<br>
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*Please review [[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] and make suggestions
*Please review [[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] and make suggestions


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=== 20 July 2011  ===
=== 20 July 2011  ===
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