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:If you view the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Cite&page=Great_Baltimore_Fire&id=269520358 cite this page link] from the article you will see that David Dilts is using the Chicago style. That being the case I do not think the example ''using the Wpd template'' is good enough for a full bibliographic citation. What has happened to ''code by hand'' example shows that the problem is still existing but only when the rich text editor is used. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 17:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | :If you view the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Cite&page=Great_Baltimore_Fire&id=269520358 cite this page link] from the article you will see that David Dilts is using the Chicago style. That being the case I do not think the example ''using the Wpd template'' is good enough for a full bibliographic citation. What has happened to ''code by hand'' example shows that the problem is still existing but only when the rich text editor is used. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 17:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I agree that the full citation is not being used correctly in that example. What I am suggesting is maybe expanding the template to create the citation. I admit that I do not know that much about the different styles. Is showing possibly an old version of the article what is suggested? Anyway, back to the problem . . . I saw 1 (valid '&') + 3 (invalid "amp;"). When I edited and went into Wikitext, I see 1+4. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 17:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | ::I agree that the full citation is not being used correctly in that example. What I am suggesting is maybe expanding the template to create the citation. I admit that I do not know that much about the different styles. Is showing possibly an old version of the article what is suggested? Anyway, back to the problem . . . I saw 1 (valid '&') + 3 (invalid "amp;"). When I edited and went into Wikitext, I see 1+4. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 17:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::P.S. Coming in for this P.S., I see 1+4 displayed and in the Editor's box when hit the "<nowiki><R></nowiki>" in the toolbar with 1+5 when going into Wikitext. Going to WYSIWYG still shows 1+5 and going back to Wikitext shows 1+6. In other words, switching from WYSIWYG to Wikitext is where the problem occurs. Expanding {{tl|Wpd}} may work, but even better may be using {{tl|cite web}} as you did with your new example. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | :::P.S. Coming in for this P.S., I see 1+4 displayed and in the Editor's box when hit the "<nowiki><R></nowiki>" in the toolbar with 1+5 when going into Wikitext. Going to WYSIWYG still shows 1+5 and going back to Wikitext shows 1+6. In other words, switching from WYSIWYG to Wikitext is where the problem occurs. Expanding {{tl|Wpd}} may work, but even better may be using {{tl|cite web}} as you did with your new example. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Oops, I spoke too soon. The URL used in {{tl|cite web}} is still within the '''ref''' tag, so it still has the same problem. [[User: | :::Oops, I spoke too soon. The URL used in {{tl|cite web}} is still within the '''ref''' tag, so it still has the same problem. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
Yes still the same problem. I thought that the plain URL would have got messed up too, but it hasn't. I hunted around and found this reference to [http://dev.fckeditor.net/ticket/2544 fckeditor bug 2544] which seems to match what we are experiencing. The last post gives a fix for the '''fckplugin.js''' --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] | Yes still the same problem. I thought that the plain URL would have got messed up too, but it hasn't. I hunted around and found this reference to [http://dev.fckeditor.net/ticket/2544 fckeditor bug 2544] which seems to match what we are experiencing. The last post gives a fix for the '''fckplugin.js''' --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] | ||
:Thank you for checking that out. It is a busy day for me, so I was not able to search for it. I hope that works. It would be nice to fix the problems David is trying to get around with all of these templates. We can check out the other problem too. I am creating a similar test page for {{tl|HBLL}} (the other problem). [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC) | |||