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== Display type and CD examples | == General Discussions == | ||
=== Display type and CD examples === | |||
Please allow a way to show whether the item is a Book, Film, Fiche, or CD-ROM in the call number. For example, '''FHL Book 973 X2Lai''', or '''FHL Film 203621'''. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 14:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | Please allow a way to show whether the item is a Book, Film, Fiche, or CD-ROM in the call number. For example, '''FHL Book 973 X2Lai''', or '''FHL Film 203621'''. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 14:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
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For the above examples see the sections below for their results [[Template talk:FHL#Books|Books]], [[Template talk:FHL#Microfilm_.2F_Fiche|Microfilm / Fiche]], and [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | For the above examples see the sections below for their results [[Template talk:FHL#Books|Books]], [[Template talk:FHL#Microfilm_.2F_Fiche|Microfilm / Fiche]], and [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Discussion in Manual of Style | === Discussion in Manual of Style === | ||
Other discussion may be viewed as part of the [[FamilySearch Wiki talk:Format for Citing and Linking to Works in FHLC, Worldcat (OCLC)#FHLC|Manual of Style]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | Other discussion may be viewed as part of the [[FamilySearch Wiki talk:Format for Citing and Linking to Works in FHLC, Worldcat (OCLC)#FHLC|Manual of Style]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Long lists of | === Long lists of items? === | ||
See [[FamilySearch Wiki:Guiding Principles]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics]] (specifically [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics#Limited_Topics|Limited Topics]]). Maybe we need to have title numbers if they will be persistent??? * See [[ | See [[FamilySearch Wiki:Guiding Principles]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics]] (specifically [[FamilySearch Wiki:Purpose and Appropriate Topics#Limited_Topics|Limited Topics]]). Maybe we need to have title numbers if they will be persistent??? * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 17:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Required extension for implementation | === Required extension for implementation === | ||
{{resolved|required #Replace: functionality}} This template requires #Replace: functionality. This functionality is achieved through the StringFunctions within the ParserFunctions . . . may need an upgrade to ParserFunctions and definitely enable them. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC) | {{resolved|required #Replace: functionality}} This template requires #Replace: functionality. This functionality is achieved through the StringFunctions within the ParserFunctions . . . may need an upgrade to ParserFunctions and definitely enable them. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
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#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/filmhitlistframe.asp?display=filmhitlist&filmno=1059152&first=undefined&last=undefined# Film search results] (without columns or colors) | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/filmhitlistframe.asp?display=filmhitlist&filmno=1059152&first=undefined&last=undefined# Film search results] (without columns or colors) | ||
#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=1059152 Film search results] (with colors, but no columns) | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=1059152 Film search results] (with colors, but no columns) | ||
#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=319732&disp=Patron+ordinance+submission+sheets%20%20&columns=*,180,0 Title details] * See [[ | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=319732&disp=Patron+ordinance+submission+sheets%20%20&columns=*,180,0 Title details] * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section | ||
#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C180%2C0&titleno=319732&disp=Patron+ordinance+submission+sheets++ Title film notes] * See [[ | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C180%2C0&titleno=319732&disp=Patron+ordinance+submission+sheets++ Title film notes] * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section | ||
#something else | #something else | ||
[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== Film number not working === | === Film number not working === | ||
[[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]] pointed out that some problem exists on [[Remich Commune, Luxembourg]] where you find the census in the FHLC, copy the film number (ie. 2398734), use this in {{tlx|FHL|2398734}} with this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&columns=*,0,0&titleno=2398734&disp=2398734 result]. This link is not right. I found that I was testing some other thing and forgot to change it back. This uses title details which uses some other title number other the the film number. I should have been using (and am back there now) the Film Hit List similar to the Book Hit List where this same example produces this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=2398734 result]. See [[ | [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]] pointed out that some problem exists on [[Remich Commune, Luxembourg]] where you find the census in the FHLC, copy the film number (ie. 2398734), use this in {{tlx|FHL|2398734}} with this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&columns=*,0,0&titleno=2398734&disp=2398734 result]. This link is not right. I found that I was testing some other thing and forgot to change it back. This uses title details which uses some other title number other the the film number. I should have been using (and am back there now) the Film Hit List similar to the Book Hit List where this same example produces this [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,0,0&filmno=2398734 result]. See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 16:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Books == | == Books == | ||
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#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?order=T&display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj Call number search results] ordered by title | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?order=T&display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj Call number search results] ordered by title | ||
#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?order=A&display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj Call number search results] ordered by author | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?order=A&display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj Call number search results] ordered by author | ||
#[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=1323602&disp=Tracing+your+Irish+ancestors%20%20&columns=*,0,0 Title details] | #[http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=1323602&disp=Tracing+your+Irish+ancestors%20%20&columns=*,0,0 Title details] * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section | ||
#something else | #something else | ||
[[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | Current example(s) cited elsewhere in this article: | ||
*CDs: see [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs section]] | *CDs: see [[Template talk:FHL#CDs|CDs section]] | ||
Two examples were given of CD examples above. However, the URL uses a title number that is not anywhere on the page. How would someone find a CD or the title number? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | Two examples were given of CD examples above. However, the URL uses a title number that is not anywhere on the page. How would someone find a CD or the title number? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:This has not been answered. The template does not work for CDs at this time as Title numbers are not implemented at this time. * See [[ | :This has not been answered. The template does not work for CDs at this time as Title numbers are not implemented at this time. * See [[Template talk:FHL#Title_number|Title number]] section. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 19:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | == Place / Surname / Keyword / Title / Author / Subject == | ||
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Is there a need to be able to display anything from the FHLC based upon any of the items listed in the above heading? For example, [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=185649&subject_disp=New+York%2C+New+York+%28City%29 New York City]? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | Is there a need to be able to display anything from the FHLC based upon any of the items listed in the above heading? For example, [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=185649&subject_disp=New+York%2C+New+York+%28City%29 New York City]? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 19:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Title number == | == Title number == | ||
This has not been implemented at this time. The potential problems with using this: | |||
This has not been implemented at this time. The potential problems with using this: | |||
#Requires a title number instead of the film / call number. I do not know if these are persistent. | #Requires a title number instead of the film / call number. I do not know if these are persistent. | ||
#The display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that these work this way. | #The display name should be passed into it to get the title bar correct. This seems very odd that these work this way. | ||
I am waiting for comments from the FHLC engineers as posted in the [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=1964 forum]. [[User: | |||
I am waiting for comments from the FHLC engineers as posted in the [http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showthread.php?t=1964 forum]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 18:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | |||