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:*''Answer: We really enjoy the help our contributors offer us and so we want to make sure people can easily see the notice for how they can get involved.'' | :*''Answer: We really enjoy the help our contributors offer us and so we want to make sure people can easily see the notice for how they can get involved.'' | ||
This new policy also seems to contradict the pages that invite participation. Why not scrap the lockdown policy and change that statement to something like <br> | This new policy also seems to contradict the pages that invite participation. Why not scrap the lockdown policy and change that statement to something like <br> | ||
"Help us fight vandalism. If you see a page that is inappropriate click here" <br> | "Help us fight vandalism. If you see a page that is inappropriate click here" <br> | ||
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*Answer: The FamilySearch Wiki is is powered by Media Wiki, the same wiki software that is used by Wikipedia. When we launched the newest version of the wiki we removed a lot of custom coding that was causing all kinds of bugs in the wiki and went back to the same out of the box settings the wikipedia has so that we would be better able to avoid many of the bugs we faced previously as we move forward. We use the same font-size as Wikipedia.'' | *Answer: The FamilySearch Wiki is is powered by Media Wiki, the same wiki software that is used by Wikipedia. When we launched the newest version of the wiki we removed a lot of custom coding that was causing all kinds of bugs in the wiki and went back to the same out of the box settings the wikipedia has so that we would be better able to avoid many of the bugs we faced previously as we move forward. We use the same font-size as Wikipedia.'' | ||
::I usually use the Firefox browser. Today I checked using Chrome and Internet Explorer. Unlike Firefox, which has Wikipedia in a bigger font, the other 2 are the same size, as you indicated. So this must be a browser issue I guess. | ::**Reply:I usually use the Firefox browser. Today I checked using Chrome and Internet Explorer. Unlike Firefox, which has Wikipedia in a bigger font, the other 2 are the same size, as you indicated. So this must be a browser issue I guess. | ||
4. New user on Wikipedia usually get a welcome/orientation message on their talk page when they first set up an account. This would be a good thing. | 4. New user on Wikipedia usually get a welcome/orientation message on their talk page when they first set up an account. This would be a good thing. | ||
:* ''Answer: We 100% agree. Currently we do have missionaries and volunteers who have taken on the responsibility of sending welcome emails and messages on new contributor's talk pages.'' | :* ''Answer: We 100% agree. Currently we do have missionaries and volunteers who have taken on the responsibility of sending welcome emails and messages on new contributor's talk pages.'' | ||
::Great! I think a little bit of wiki-love goes a long way. | ::**Reply:Great! I think a little bit of "wiki-love" goes a long way. | ||
5. I've noticed a there's a push for creating more articles, rather than improve existing articles. I don't think FS wiki has the resources and volunteers like Wikipedia to maintain quality. More pages = more maintenance. Going for quantity over quality will make this look like [http://www.cyndislist.com Cyndi's list] (an ugly directory of resources) rather than an online encyclopedia and how to guide for genealogy. It may already be too late ... | 5. I've noticed a there's a push for creating more articles, rather than improve existing articles. I don't think FS wiki has the resources and volunteers like Wikipedia to maintain quality. More pages = more maintenance. Going for quantity over quality will make this look like [http://www.cyndislist.com Cyndi's list] (an ugly directory of resources) rather than an online encyclopedia and how to guide for genealogy. It may already be too late ... | ||
*''Answer: Quality is extremely important. Within the wiki we believe one component of a good wiki page is a complete wiki page. Currently across many areas of the wiki we have pages that have missing sections or only have small amounts of content. We also understand that there may be some missing pages that are low hanging fruit for people to create and add value. When we say we are interested in creating and improving articles that is what we mean.'' | *''Answer: Quality is extremely important. Within the wiki we believe one component of a good wiki page is a complete wiki page. Currently across many areas of the wiki we have pages that have missing sections or only have small amounts of content. We also understand that there may be some missing pages that are low hanging fruit for people to create and add value. When we say we are interested in creating and improving articles that is what we mean.'' | ||
::I would hate for it to move from an encyclopedia to a list that requires dozens of mouse clicks through fluff to find what you're actually looking for. Wikipedia does have lists (which are separate from articles). A clearly defined, well communicated strategy may be wise. For example, should all major cities have a page? How should their information be different from the state or province in which they reside? | ::**Reply:I would hate for it to move from an encyclopedia to a list that requires dozens of mouse clicks through fluff to find what you're actually looking for. Wikipedia does have lists (which are separate from articles). A clearly defined, well communicated strategy may be wise. For example, should all major cities have a page? How should their information be different from the state or province in which they reside? | ||
6. It would also be good to have a different introduction for new editors who have experience in editing on Wikipedia. Maybe a special page to tell them how this Wiki is similar to Wikipedia and how it is different. | 6. It would also be good to have a different introduction for new editors who have experience in editing on Wikipedia. Maybe a special page to tell them how this Wiki is similar to Wikipedia and how it is different. | ||
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*''Answer: there are many features that would be very beneficial to have. We have VERY limited engineering resources so some of these feature/ functionality requests may take a backseat to more pressing issues... ex. When you have a bucket of water you can use to water the plants or put out the fire in your living room chances are the living room fire will take priority. '' | *''Answer: there are many features that would be very beneficial to have. We have VERY limited engineering resources so some of these feature/ functionality requests may take a backseat to more pressing issues... ex. When you have a bucket of water you can use to water the plants or put out the fire in your living room chances are the living room fire will take priority. '' | ||
::Understood. Just putting it out there. | ::**Reply:Understood. Just putting it out there. | ||
9. Respond more promptly to feedback. Pages such as this should be on the administration's watch-list. It's been over a month since I posted this. I placed tags and pings that most new editors could not do. Even a brief acknowledgement would be better than nothing. If another user wanted to leave feedback, it would be difficult to do so. | 9. Respond more promptly to feedback. Pages such as this should be on the administration's watch-list. It's been over a month since I posted this. I placed tags and pings that most new editors could not do. Even a brief acknowledgement would be better than nothing. If another user wanted to leave feedback, it would be difficult to do so. | ||
*''Answer: For more prompt responses we encourage people to join our Yammer community where interactions are faster paced and the platform allows us to have more collaborative and fluid conversations.'' | *''Answer: For more prompt responses we encourage people to join our Yammer community where interactions are faster paced and the platform allows us to have more collaborative and fluid conversations.'' | ||
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::Hmmm. Perhaps the Yammer thing should be mentioned at the top of this page, a month is a long time to wait for a reply. Maybe the Yammer should also be mentioned instead of that life preserver box that leads to nowhere. I would think very high priority would be to help new and existing users quickly get orientated and get them help quickly when needed. I think it would also be helpful to have a system in place to ID experienced Wikipedians and perhaps assign them tasks that would take advantage of their skill set. | ::**Reply:Hmmm. Perhaps the Yammer thing should be mentioned at the top of this page, a month is a long time to wait for a reply. Maybe the Yammer should also be mentioned instead of that life preserver box that leads to nowhere. I would think very high priority would be to help new and existing users quickly get orientated and get them help quickly when needed. I think it would also be helpful to have a system in place to ID experienced Wikipedians and perhaps assign them tasks that would take advantage of their skill set. | ||
Just a few of my initial impressions. I hope to use my Wikipedia experience to help make this site better. I hope this feedback is useful. [[User:Ryancormack|Asparagus]] ([[User talk:Ryancormack|talk]]) 16:02, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | Just a few of my initial impressions. I hope to use my Wikipedia experience to help make this site better. I hope this feedback is useful. [[User:Ryancormack|Asparagus]] ([[User talk:Ryancormack|talk]]) 16:02, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | ||
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This page is watched. I sent a message to the Wiki managers right after your first comment. I will resend and see if we can get your comments answered.<br>[[User:Brepouille|Brepouille/Wiki Support Team]] ([[User talk:Brepouille|talk]]) 17:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC) | This page is watched. I sent a message to the Wiki managers right after your first comment. I will resend and see if we can get your comments answered.<br>[[User:Brepouille|Brepouille/Wiki Support Team]] ([[User talk:Brepouille|talk]]) 17:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC) | ||
[[User:Brepouille]] Thanks Beverly, I inserted my responses above. Please ping me (as I have done here) or leave a message on my talk page when you need to connect with me again. I check this wiki about once every 2 weeks.[[User:Ryancormack|Asparagus]] ([[User talk:Ryancormack|talk]]) 23:05, 29 January 2017 (UTC) | **Reply: [[User:Brepouille]] Thanks Beverly, I inserted my responses above. Please ping me (as I have done here) or leave a message on my talk page when you need to connect with me again. I check this wiki about once every 2 weeks.[[User:Ryancormack|Asparagus]] ([[User talk:Ryancormack|talk]]) 23:05, 29 January 2017 (UTC) | ||
=== Decision Reached === | === Decision Reached === | ||