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This idea was proposed by [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]]. I am serving as his scribe here. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 19:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)  
This idea was proposed by [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]]. I am serving as his scribe here. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 19:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)  


As mentioned below, I suggest FHL not be linked.  When they click on the call number link, they will learn quickly enough that FHL stands for the Family History Library.  I prefer the acronym for the same reason, and it's shorter.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 21:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)  
:As mentioned below, I suggest FHL not be linked.  When they click on the call number link, they will learn quickly enough that FHL stands for the Family History Library.  I prefer the acronym for the same reason, and it's shorter.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 21:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)  


== Referencing OCLC/Worldcat works  ==
== Referencing OCLC/Worldcat works  ==
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:The second style seems the best--WorldCat is more recognized, is part of the domain name, and putting both OCLC and WorldCat looks unattractive. [[User:Alan|Alan]] 20:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:The second style seems the best--WorldCat is more recognized, is part of the domain name, and putting both OCLC and WorldCat looks unattractive. [[User:Alan|Alan]] 20:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


As long as the record identifies what resource you are in (when you click on the item number), I don't think the resource name or acronym needs to be a link.  I would use WorldCat because that is what appears in the record when you click on the link.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 21:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:As long as the record identifies what resource you are in (when you click on the item number), I don't think the resource name or acronym needs to be a link.  I would use WorldCat because that is what appears in the record when you click on the link.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 21:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)  


== Format for OCLC and FHLC works  ==
== Format for OCLC and FHLC works  ==
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Grenham, John. ''Tracing Your Irish Ancestors: The Complete Guide''. Dublin, Ireland: Gill and Macmillan, 1992. ([http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/68627254/editions?editionsView=true&referer=di WorldCat 68627254]; [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj FHL 941.5 D27gj].)   
Grenham, John. ''Tracing Your Irish Ancestors: The Complete Guide''. Dublin, Ireland: Gill and Macmillan, 1992. ([http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/68627254/editions?editionsView=true&referer=di WorldCat 68627254]; [http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&callno=941.5+D27gj FHL 941.5 D27gj].)   


The idea behind the simplification of links is this: The links should be simplified to avoid confusing the user. In the earlier iteration, the link on "WorldCat" leads to the Worldcat Home page or About page so that a reader unfamiliar with WorldCat can easily find out what it was. The other link -- the one to the WorldCat title number -- leads right to the listing for the book in question. The link to "FHL" leads to a wiki page about the FHL; the call number leads to the Family History Library entry for that book. It was posited that having two links -- one to define the collection/library and the other to lead to the book entry -- is confusing.
The idea behind the simplification of links is this: The links should be simplified to avoid confusing the user. In the earlier iteration, the link on "WorldCat" leads to the Worldcat Home page or About page so that a reader unfamiliar with WorldCat can easily find out what it was. The other link -- the one to the WorldCat title number -- leads right to the listing for the book in question. The link to "FHL" leads to a wiki page about the FHL; the call number leads to the Family History Library entry for that book. It was posited that having two links -- one to define the collection/library and the other to lead to the book entry -- is confusing.  


In Community Group meeting, it was posited that the links to the pages that describe the libraries/collections/catalogs (such as FHL or WorldCat) be nixed, that these links should be consolidated to go only to the catalog entry in question, and that if the user who is led to the catalog entry still has questions about the nature of the catalog/library/collection itself, they can simply navigate around that catalog's site for answers. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 18:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
In Community Group meeting, it was posited that the links to the pages that describe the libraries/collections/catalogs (such as FHL or WorldCat) be nixed, that these links should be consolidated to go only to the catalog entry in question, and that if the user who is led to the catalog entry still has questions about the nature of the catalog/library/collection itself, they can simply navigate around that catalog's site for answers. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 18:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)  


== Creating Numerous, Repetitive Links  ==
== Creating Numerous, Repetitive Links  ==
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Creating links of an oft-repeated phrase, title, word or acronym can be easily accomplished using OpenOffice, which can be downloaded for free. From FSWiki, copy a page (containing the repeated word or phrase) in WikiText mode and paste it into OpenOffice.  Do a Find and Replace (binoculars icon) for the word or phrase with link brackets added, click 'Replace All' and close.  Copy and paste the page with links back into the Wiki, still in WikiText mode, and save.  It's slick and saves a lot of time, effort, and sanity.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 22:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)  
Creating links of an oft-repeated phrase, title, word or acronym can be easily accomplished using OpenOffice, which can be downloaded for free. From FSWiki, copy a page (containing the repeated word or phrase) in WikiText mode and paste it into OpenOffice.  Do a Find and Replace (binoculars icon) for the word or phrase with link brackets added, click 'Replace All' and close.  Copy and paste the page with links back into the Wiki, still in WikiText mode, and save.  It's slick and saves a lot of time, effort, and sanity.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 22:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)  


A Find and Replace option is also available in FCKEditor, the default editing sofware that pops up when you click "Edit" on a wiki article. The Find and Replace icon looks like a capital A and B with some dotted arrows. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 18:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)  
:A Find and Replace option is also available in FCKEditor, the default editing sofware that pops up when you click "Edit" on a wiki article. The Find and Replace icon looks like a capital A and B with some dotted arrows. [[User:Ritcheymt|Ritcheymt]] 18:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)  


This may work for some things, but not if there is a link embedded in the text.  I tried.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 19:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::This may work for some things, but not if there is a link embedded in the text.  I tried.  [[User:Bakerbh|Bakerbh]] 19:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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