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:::In that case I suggest adding a ''domain'' parameter to the template with the default set to '''www''', but allow the possibility of changing the sub-domain if needed. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 17:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
:::In that case I suggest adding a ''domain'' parameter to the template with the default set to '''www''', but allow the possibility of changing the sub-domain if needed. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 17:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
::::Good suggestion . . . I have already started taking a look at that (what was that saying, two great minds think alike). I will be doing more research on this and feel discussion would be in order for this. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 17:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
::::Good suggestion . . . I have already started taking a look at that (what was that saying, two great minds think alike). I will be doing more research on this and feel discussion would be in order for this. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 17:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
:::::From what I have seen in my readings, I question the value of using the regional versions of WorldCat. It seems the main purpose of using WorldCat is to find libraries in my area that hold the book, not find libraries in another area. I am adding this to be discussed in today's meeting. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)  
:::::From what I have seen in my readings, I question the value of using the regional versions of WorldCat. It seems the main purpose of using WorldCat is to find libraries in my area that hold the book, not find libraries in another area. I am adding this to be discussed in today's meeting. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)  
:According to [[Community Meeting Agenda 6 October 2009|Community Meeting Agenda 6 October 2009]], we will not be supporting "regional" versions of WorldCat. The template has been updated to follow this consensus. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 00:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:According to [[Community Meeting Agenda 6 October 2009|Community Meeting Agenda 6 October 2009]], we will not be supporting "regional" versions of WorldCat. The template has been updated to follow this consensus. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 00:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


== Using the template  ==
== Using the template  ==
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Tried first two methods, both failed miserably. They linked to template instead of the item in the OCLC. [[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 07:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
Tried first two methods, both failed miserably. They linked to template instead of the item in the OCLC. [[User:Dsammy|dsammy]] 07:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  


:I would like to find out more about the region version of WorldCat. Is there a website that has the various regional WorldCats listed? What failed miserably? I do not understand your last two sentences. Maybe include examples, please. Some discussion started [[User talk:Cottrells#If_wpd.7Cxxxx_works.2C_why_not_oclc.7Cxxx.3F|here]]. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 14:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
:I would like to find out more about the region version of WorldCat. Is there a website that has the various regional WorldCats listed? What failed miserably? I do not understand your last two sentences. Maybe include examples, please. Some discussion started [[User talk:Cottrells#If_wpd.7Cxxxx_works.2C_why_not_oclc.7Cxxx.3F|here]]. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 14:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
::Unfortunately, I found Summit by accident while searching for books through Google.
::Unfortunately, I found Summit by accident while searching for books through Google.


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::I followed the instructions and they failed, both with and withouth t1. Both failed ones linked to template rather than the OCLC record. I did try 3rd and it failed. I see Steve got it right somehow.
::I followed the instructions and they failed, both with and withouth t1. Both failed ones linked to template rather than the OCLC record. I did try 3rd and it failed. I see Steve got it right somehow.


:::DSammy, how about examples? The {{tl|tlx}} template would not be used when accessing templates, it is just used for displaying what a template looks like. All templates are case sensitive. The examples in the {{tl|WorldCat}} template were copied and pasted from what is displayed, so I do not know how they could have "failed" for you. Could you please provide examples? [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 16:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:::DSammy, how about examples? The {{tl|tlx}} template would not be used when accessing templates, it is just used for displaying what a template looks like. All templates are case sensitive. The examples in the {{tl|WorldCat}} template were copied and pasted from what is displayed, so I do not know how they could have "failed" for you. Could you please provide examples? [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 16:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


::::If you review the edit history of [[Wallowa County, Oregon]] you will see the [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]]'s failed attempts to use {{tl|WorldCat}} --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 18:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::::If you review the edit history of [[Wallowa County, Oregon]] you will see the [[User:Dsammy|Dsammy]]'s failed attempts to use {{tl|WorldCat}} --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 18:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


After the meeting today, I've spent awhile studying and using the WorldCat template. As you suspected, Thomas, I DO like it. Since I am creating many pages that are similar, with similar bibliographies, I use a lot of cut and paste. But I can see that when a unique page is created with a unique bibliography, the template would save time and be less likely to have typos in it, assuming I get the number right! Are you looking for mare specific input? What would you like to know from me? [[User:Jbparker|Jbparker]] 23:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
After the meeting today, I've spent awhile studying and using the WorldCat template. As you suspected, Thomas, I DO like it. Since I am creating many pages that are similar, with similar bibliographies, I use a lot of cut and paste. But I can see that when a unique page is created with a unique bibliography, the template would save time and be less likely to have typos in it, assuming I get the number right! Are you looking for mare specific input? What would you like to know from me? [[User:Jbparker|Jbparker]] 23:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)  


== Editions  ==
== Editions  ==


Currently unless {{{2}}} is either given as ''isbn'' or ''issn'' the word ''editions'' is added to the output URL. Is this the intended outcome? From the links given in the notes section, I assume not, but maybe they've not been updated. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 18:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Currently unless {{{2}}} is either given as ''isbn'' or ''issn'' the word ''editions'' is added to the output URL. Is this the intended outcome? From the links given in the notes section, I assume not, but maybe they've not been updated. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] 18:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)  
:If I recall correctly, different editions of a book or magazine would have a different ISBN. In any case, ''editions'' is not allowed in the URL for ISBN or ISSN. So, that is the intent of the template. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 
:If I recall correctly, different editions of a book or magazine would have a different ISBN. In any case, ''editions'' is not allowed in the URL for ISBN or ISSN. So, that is the intent of the template. [[User:Thomas Lerman|Thomas Lerman]] 18:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


== Adding the '''disp''' parameter  ==
== Adding the '''disp''' parameter  ==
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I have added a parameter named '''<tt>disp</tt>''' that can be used to control the link text, as is available for the {{tl|FHL}} template. This was done in response to an email request from [[User:McBrideLW|Lisa McBride]]. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 11:58, 2 September 2011 (UTC)  
I have added a parameter named '''<tt>disp</tt>''' that can be used to control the link text, as is available for the {{tl|FHL}} template. This was done in response to an email request from [[User:McBrideLW|Lisa McBride]]. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 11:58, 2 September 2011 (UTC)  


I have found this functionality very helpful.&nbsp; We have some users of the wiki who are not familiar with WorldCat.&nbsp; In this display I put the words "Other Libraries (WorldCat)" to indicate we are taking the user away from the FHL catalog and pointing them to other libraries who may also hold the same material.&nbsp;The phrase is short enough that I think it won't clutter up the wiki, but it will help newer users. [[User:McBrideLW|Lisa McBride]]
I have found this functionality very helpful.&nbsp; We have some users of the wiki who are not familiar with WorldCat.&nbsp; In this display I put the words "Other Libraries (WorldCat)" to indicate we are taking the user away from the FHL catalog and pointing them to other libraries who may also hold the same material.&nbsp;The phrase is short enough that I think it won't clutter up the wiki, but it will help newer users. [[User:McBrideLW|Lisa McBride]]  
 
== Displaying the WorldCat item number  ==
 
Thanks for the wonderful work you do on our templates, Steve.
 
I'll admit that I'm not yet willing to use the WorldCat template because it displays the WorldCat item number, which I don't believe communicates to the reader. I still prefer to truncate the URL instead.
 
[[User:Pipkincm|Charlene Pipkin]] 13:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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