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[[Image:Church of Ireland 3.jpg|right|476x489px|Church of Ireland]]Probate records are court records relating to the distribution of a deceased person's estate. Generally they record the deceased's date of death; names, relationships, residences of heirs and guardians; and names of witnesses. Although incomplete, records relating to probate can be traced in Ireland back to the seventeenth century for most areas of the country.  
[[Image:Church of Ireland 3.jpg|right|276x289px|Church of Ireland]]Probate records are court records relating to the distribution of a deceased person's estate. Generally they record the deceased's date of death; names, relationships, residences of heirs and guardians; and names of witnesses. Although incomplete, records relating to probate can be traced in Ireland back to the seventeenth century for most areas of the country.  


Given the need to leave a will stemmed from holding assets, it stands to reason that not every person who died left probate records. Most wills were left by males with property. However, wills often list the names of the deceased's family and friends, so that many more people are listed in probate records than actually left them.  
Given the need to leave a will stemmed from holding assets, it stands to reason that not every person who died left probate records. Most wills were left by males with property. However, wills often list the names of the deceased's family and friends, so that many more people are listed in probate records than actually left them.  


=== Types of Probate Documents ===
=== Types of Probate Documents ===


Some types of Irish probate documents are:  
Some types of Irish probate documents are:  
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For a discussion of probate documents and their availability, see Rosemary Ffolliott and Eileen O'Byrne, "Wills and Administrations" in ''Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder'', edited by Donal F. Begley. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 D27i|disp=book 941.5 D27i.)}}  
For a discussion of probate documents and their availability, see Rosemary Ffolliott and Eileen O'Byrne, "Wills and Administrations" in ''Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder'', edited by Donal F. Begley. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 D27i|disp=book 941.5 D27i.)}}  
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=== Pre-1858 Probate Jurisdictions  ===
=== Pre-1858 Probate Jurisdictions  ===
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=== Pre-1858 Probate Courts in Ireland  ===
=== Pre-1858 Probate Courts in Ireland  ===
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''Irish Probates Register''. Typescript. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family History Library, 1979. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 P2gs|disp=book Reg. 941.5 P2gs.)}}  
''Irish Probates Register''. Typescript. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family History Library, 1979. (Family History Library {{FHL|941.5 P2gs|disp=book Reg. 941.5 P2gs.)}}  
==== Indexes ====


Most pre-1858 probate records were destroyed when the Public Record Office in Dublin burned in 1922. Fortunately, prior to the fire, the original wills and admons had been indexed. Most of the indexes survived the disaster. Microfilm copies of the indexes are available at the Family History Library. They are listed in the&nbsp;Place Search of the catalog under:  
Most pre-1858 probate records were destroyed when the Public Record Office in Dublin burned in 1922. Fortunately, prior to the fire, the original wills and admons had been indexed. Most of the indexes survived the disaster. Microfilm copies of the indexes are available at the Family History Library. They are listed in the&nbsp;Place Search of the catalog under:  
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The minimum criteria to have a will proved or an estate administered in the Prerogative Court of Armagh was to possess property valued at more than £5 in more than one of the approximately twenty five ecclesiastical dioceses. Wills of the wealthy are often to be found in this court since they were likely to have property in more than one diocese.  
The minimum criteria to have a will proved or an estate administered in the Prerogative Court of Armagh was to possess property valued at more than £5 in more than one of the approximately twenty five ecclesiastical dioceses. Wills of the wealthy are often to be found in this court since they were likely to have property in more than one diocese.  


The diocesan courts regulated property within the jurisdiction of the Bishop of each diocese. Fees paid to the Bishop covered the cost of executing the will or administration. The establishment of the Prerogative courts resolved potential disputes between the Bishops of individual dioceses.<br>
The diocesan courts regulated property within the jurisdiction of the Bishop of each diocese. Fees paid to the Bishop covered the cost of executing the will or administration. The establishment of the Prerogative courts resolved potential disputes between the Bishops of individual dioceses.<br>  


=== Post-1857 Probate Jurisdictions  ===
=== Post-1857 Probate Jurisdictions  ===
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=== Post-1857 Probate Courts  ===
=== Post-1857 Probate Courts  ===
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==== J. N. C. Atkins Davis  ====
==== J. N. C. Atkins Davis  ====


Abstracts of wills made by J. N. C. Atkins Davis are indexed in Analecta Hibernica Vol. 17. Several of these wills are for the Prerogative Court. As with many of the collections, these relate to specific families with which the researcher was directly interested. The Davis collection is deposited in the Genealogical Office (G.O. Mss. 380 400) and is contained on two reels of microfilm Family History Library {{FHL|494972|title-id|disp=film 100143}} and Family History Library film{{FHL|466294|title-id|disp=100144}}. Much of the material is mixed with pedigrees and miscellaneous notes.<br>
Abstracts of wills made by J. N. C. Atkins Davis are indexed in Analecta Hibernica Vol. 17. Several of these wills are for the Prerogative Court. As with many of the collections, these relate to specific families with which the researcher was directly interested. The Davis collection is deposited in the Genealogical Office (G.O. Mss. 380 400) and is contained on two reels of microfilm Family History Library {{FHL|494972|title-id|disp=film 100143}} and Family History Library film{{FHL|466294|title-id|disp=100144}}. Much of the material is mixed with pedigrees and miscellaneous notes.<br>  


==== <br>Estate Duty Office  ====
==== <br>Estate Duty Office  ====
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==== Phillips  ====
==== Phillips  ====


The Phillips collection is deposited at the Public Record Office, Dublin and was microfilmed in January, 1951 by the Family History Library ({{FHL|101018|film|disp=microfilm 101018}}). The collection consists of testamentary documents, original wills and administrations. It is alphabetically arranged by box and there are several boxes to each roll of microfilm. A collection of "Large wills in the Prerogative Office" was also microfilmed (Family History Library {{FHL|101027|film|disp=microfilm 101027}}) and has an index at the beginning. These are contained in the Phillips Mss. Vol. 214.<br>
The Phillips collection is deposited at the Public Record Office, Dublin and was microfilmed in January, 1951 by the Family History Library ({{FHL|101018|film|disp=microfilm 101018}}). The collection consists of testamentary documents, original wills and administrations. It is alphabetically arranged by box and there are several boxes to each roll of microfilm. A collection of "Large wills in the Prerogative Office" was also microfilmed (Family History Library {{FHL|101027|film|disp=microfilm 101027}}) and has an index at the beginning. These are contained in the Phillips Mss. Vol. 214.<br>  


==== Prerogative Court of Canterbury  ====
==== Prerogative Court of Canterbury  ====
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==== Gertrude Thrift (1872-1951)  ====
==== Gertrude Thrift (1872-1951)  ====


A sizeable collection of will abstracts amounting to approximately 4,000 was compiled by Miss Gertrude Thrift. This collection is deposited at the Public Record Office of Ireland, Dublin and was microfilmed by the Family History Library&nbsp; {{FHL|592949|film|disp=microfilm 592949 956}} and{{FHL|234649|title-id|disp=microfilm 596408 419}}. This material is indexed in the Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records and Keeper of State Records in Ireland, 55th Report pp. 69 90 and 57th Report pp. 325 420. Not all of the will abstracts are for the Prerogative Court.<br>
A sizeable collection of will abstracts amounting to approximately 4,000 was compiled by Miss Gertrude Thrift. This collection is deposited at the Public Record Office of Ireland, Dublin and was microfilmed by the Family History Library&nbsp; {{FHL|592949|film|disp=microfilm 592949 956}} and{{FHL|234649|title-id|disp=microfilm 596408 419}}. This material is indexed in the Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records and Keeper of State Records in Ireland, 55th Report pp. 69 90 and 57th Report pp. 325 420. Not all of the will abstracts are for the Prerogative Court.<br>  


==== <br>William H. Whelply (1866-1960)  ====
==== <br>William H. Whelply (1866-1960)  ====
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==== Lorton Wilson  ====
==== Lorton Wilson  ====


Abstracts of 195 Prerogative wills were compiled by Dr. Lorton Wilson of Burnham on sea, Somerset. This collection is on microfilm at the National Library of Ireland (Ref. N.2880 P.1990). Wills of Irish persons proved in England also appear in this collection. This collection has not been microfilmed by the Family History Library.<br>
Abstracts of 195 Prerogative wills were compiled by Dr. Lorton Wilson of Burnham on sea, Somerset. This collection is on microfilm at the National Library of Ireland (Ref. N.2880 P.1990). Wills of Irish persons proved in England also appear in this collection. This collection has not been microfilmed by the Family History Library.<br>  


=== Web Sites and online indexes  ===
=== Web Sites and online indexes  ===
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