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Is there an official dispute resolution policy yet? Not yet, but we invite all community members to review the following ideas, add comments, or add additional ideas to the list. A great model for ways to resolve disputes is at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution Wikipedia: Dispute Resolution]. For additional ideas see, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Negotiation Wikipedia: Negotiation]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette Wikipedia:Etiquette]. FamilySearch Research Wiki invites your comments and other ideas related to the tools that might be implemented:  
{{talk header}} Is there an official dispute resolution policy yet? Not yet, but we invite all community members to review the following ideas, add comments, or add additional ideas to the list. A great model for ways to resolve disputes is at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution Wikipedia: Dispute Resolution]. For additional ideas see, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Negotiation Wikipedia: Negotiation]; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette Wikipedia:Etiquette]. FamilySearch Research Wiki invites your comments and other ideas related to the tools that might be implemented:  


== Request another opinion  ==
== Request another opinion  ==
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*A brief explanation of the difference between '''mediation''' and '''arbitration''' and whether one is expected to pursue them in a certain order.
*A brief explanation of the difference between '''mediation''' and '''arbitration''' and whether one is expected to pursue them in a certain order.


== Text shouting?<span id="fck_dom_range_temp_1311287396630_230" /> ==
== Evaluate policy/process to help users through it  ==


The policy currently states that "rude... impolite communications are unacceptable. Does that include text shouting, or the use of caps to "shout" a point across in a discussion page or email? [[User:RitcheyMT|RitcheyMT]] 22:38, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Reviewing the process on this page, I've been trying to see what in my mind would help clarify how people can look at the policy, to help them through the process. Here are some initial thoughts. These are some initial thoughts after trying to understand what an individual will be faced with and looking through some of the {{wpd|Wikipedia:Dispute resolution}} processes.


== What exactly is rude or impolite? ==
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Since "rude... impolite communications are unacceptable," does that include telling someone they are "way behind" in their understanding of how to construct Web pages?&nbsp;[[User:RitcheyMT|RitcheyMT]] 22:38, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
This policy describes what to do when you have a dispute with another editor.&nbsp;  


== Criticizing&nbsp;the person rather than the idea ==
=== [[FamilySearch Wiki:Negotiation|First Step: Try to work it out]]  ===


It seems a good addition or rule of thumb to add to this page is that one may express polite&nbsp;criticism of ideas, but one should not criticize people. So if you don't like&nbsp;the heading Joe added to a page, don't&nbsp;tell Joe he's&nbsp;backwards;&nbsp;talk to Joe about the merits of the heading and offer a possible&nbsp;alternative. [[User:RitcheyMT|RitcheyMT]] 22:38, 21 July 2011 (UTC)&nbsp;
===== Talk to each other  =====
 
When disputes arise between community members they are strongly encouraged to talk together and resolve their differences. When there are disputes, it is very important to:
 
#Accept that each party has the best interest of the wiki at heart
#Use the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Talk page guidelines|talk pages]] to discuss issues
#Follow the&nbsp;[[FamilySearch Wiki:Etiquette Guidelines|Etiquette Guidelines]]
#{{wpd|Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot|Stay cool when the editing gets hot}}<br>
 
===== Ask for another opinion  =====
 
If you can't come to a resolution between parties that way, you should ask for some outside assistance from other community members. A few of the options to explore are:
 
*Ask for a third opinion
*Ask about the subject
*Ask about a policy
*<strike>Request a comment</strike> (Can we somehow combine this process with the 3rd opinion process to simplify things for users? Because we have such a small group of people who might participate, it might be good to combine these two ideas into one)
*<strike>Informal mediation</strike> (as we don't have people to fill this role yet, would it hurt the process to allow things to go straight to mediation from here?)
 
=== [[FamilySearch Wiki:Mediation|Second Step: Mediation]]  ===
 
If discussing the problem doesn't bring it to a resolution, you may [[FamilySearch Wiki:Mediation Requests|request Mediation]]. Mediation is a more formal process whereby a Mediator helps to facilitate the conversation between the editors.<br>
 
=== [[FamilySearch Wiki:Arbitration|Third Step: Arbitration]]  ===
 
If Mediation doesn't resolve the problem, the issue may need to be escalated to the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Arbitration|Arbitration]] board. This is requested by the Mediator.<br>
 
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Thoughts? I was thinking that putting it into a step 1/2/3 process will clarify what needs to be done, and shortening the bulleted list will help people focus on just a couple of options that could be helpful.&nbsp; -- [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] ([[User talk:VasquezJL|talk]]&thinsp;|&thinsp;[[Special:Contributions/VasquezJL|contribs]]) 03:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:10, 19 August 2011

Is there an official dispute resolution policy yet? Not yet, but we invite all community members to review the following ideas, add comments, or add additional ideas to the list. A great model for ways to resolve disputes is at Wikipedia: Dispute Resolution. For additional ideas see, Wikipedia: Negotiation; Wikipedia:Etiquette. FamilySearch Research Wiki invites your comments and other ideas related to the tools that might be implemented:

Request another opinion

  • Ask another community member for their opinion.
  • How would someone find another community member to ask?
  • Is there a sign-up list to participate in the Wiki as one who would volunteer to give a third opinion?

Requests for comments

  • If community members have a dispute about content, they could ask the "community" for their comments on the subject being disputed.
  • How would a member request comments from the entire Wiki community?
  • Does the Community Portal page have a section for "Requests for Comment" ?
  • Should a specific page be created for use as "Requests for Comment" ? If so, how would the page be maintained?

Ask for policy clarification

  • If the dispute is related to a policy, the community member could ask for clarification on the policy if needed.
  • Who should the member ask? Administrators? Someone else?
  • How does a member request clarification?

Civility issues

  • If disputes are a result of civility issues, then what?

Protecting pages with unresolved disputes

  • Should pages be protected when disputes are not resolved?
  • How would someone request that a page needs protecting due to an unresolved dispute?
  • Who reviews the request? Who protects the page from further edits until the dispute is resolved? Who verifies the dispute was resolved and removes the protected status?
  • What happens if the dispute is never resolved?

See Also

Brief clarifications?

I don't have time to research and write these myself, but I'd love to see some clarifications added to this page:

  • On the bullet list item about consulting a third party, some explanation as to where to find a third party who is objective.
  • A brief explanation of the difference between mediation and arbitration and whether one is expected to pursue them in a certain order.

Evaluate policy/process to help users through it

Reviewing the process on this page, I've been trying to see what in my mind would help clarify how people can look at the policy, to help them through the process. Here are some initial thoughts. These are some initial thoughts after trying to understand what an individual will be faced with and looking through some of the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution processes.

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This policy describes what to do when you have a dispute with another editor. 

First Step: Try to work it out

Talk to each other

When disputes arise between community members they are strongly encouraged to talk together and resolve their differences. When there are disputes, it is very important to:

  1. Accept that each party has the best interest of the wiki at heart
  2. Use the talk pages to discuss issues
  3. Follow the Etiquette Guidelines
  4. Stay cool when the editing gets hot
Ask for another opinion

If you can't come to a resolution between parties that way, you should ask for some outside assistance from other community members. A few of the options to explore are:

  • Ask for a third opinion
  • Ask about the subject
  • Ask about a policy
  • Request a comment (Can we somehow combine this process with the 3rd opinion process to simplify things for users? Because we have such a small group of people who might participate, it might be good to combine these two ideas into one)
  • Informal mediation (as we don't have people to fill this role yet, would it hurt the process to allow things to go straight to mediation from here?)

Second Step: Mediation

If discussing the problem doesn't bring it to a resolution, you may request Mediation. Mediation is a more formal process whereby a Mediator helps to facilitate the conversation between the editors.

Third Step: Arbitration

If Mediation doesn't resolve the problem, the issue may need to be escalated to the Arbitration board. This is requested by the Mediator.

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Thoughts? I was thinking that putting it into a step 1/2/3 process will clarify what needs to be done, and shortening the bulleted list will help people focus on just a couple of options that could be helpful.  -- janellv (talk | contribs) 03:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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