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*Minutes: Last week’s minutes discussed and corrections made.  
*Minutes: Last week’s minutes discussed and corrections made.  
*Discussion of previous minutes mixed with the Online Community Meeting, Tuesday, January 17, 2012  
*Discussion of previous minutes mixed with the Online Community Meeting, Tuesday, January 17, 2012  
*Goal for WikiProject Utah: Obtain a '''quick understanding''' and '''peak interest '''that will link to deeper understanding of research and great desire to find ancestors and to contribute to the Wiki 
*Goal for WikiProject Utah: Obtain a '''quick understanding''' and '''peak interest '''that will link to deeper understanding of research and great desire to find ancestors and to contribute to the Wiki  
*Wilma’s “Online Meeting” peaked great interest for the experimental page of Utah  
*Wilma’s “Online Meeting” peaked great interest for the experimental page of Utah  
*Wilma’s warm and soft manner invites participants to feel free to give opinions and suggestions  
*Wilma’s warm and soft manner invites participants to feel free to give opinions and suggestions  
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*Tuesday's meeting  
*Tuesday's meeting  
**To raise people's awareness of Utah wiki and pique their interest in it so they'll recruit themselves. Our intent is not to only get contributors - especially not at first. Hopefully they use and get familiar with it first.  
**To raise people's awareness of Utah wiki and pique their interest in it so they'll recruit themselves. Our intent is not to only get contributors - especially not at first. Hopefully they use and get familiar with it first.  
**Wilma will show a bad  (or undeveloped) page and compare it with a page that is interesting and helpful.  
**Wilma will show a bad (or undeveloped) page and compare it with a page that is interesting and helpful.  
**Either now or down the road she would like to identify potential contributors' interests so she can meet them or match people up well. This may involve contacting them.  
**Either now or down the road she would like to identify potential contributors' interests so she can meet them or match people up well. This may involve contacting them.  
**She is preparing a powerpoint for Tuesday
**She is preparing a powerpoint for Tuesday
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*Wilma will create a county sandbox to experiment wth different wiki ideas So we can play with things and not have them changed by other users. Then she will test the pages on people (5-6) from various demographics: genealogists and beginners, old and young, computer users and not so much, wiki users and not - etc.  
*Wilma will create a county sandbox to experiment wth different wiki ideas So we can play with things and not have them changed by other users. Then she will test the pages on people (5-6) from various demographics: genealogists and beginners, old and young, computer users and not so much, wiki users and not - etc.  
*January 10 meeting at 9:a.m. and each Tuesday thereafter.<br>
*January 10 meeting at 9:a.m. and each Tuesday thereafter.<br>
**The meeting will be a decision meeting.&nbsp;
**The meeting will be a decision meeting.
**Dawne has already sent out the first announcement about the meeting. Patsy eill sent the official invite Monday or Tuesday after the New Year. It will be set up at MeetingPlace to run through June. Dawne will send a reminder the day before.  
**Dawne has already sent out the first announcement about the meeting. Patsy eill sent the official invite Monday or Tuesday after the New Year. It will be set up at MeetingPlace to run through June. Dawne will send a reminder the day before.  
**At our next week's meeting we will determine what part each of us will play in the virtual meeting .
**At our next week's meeting we will determine what part each of us will play in the virtual meeting .
*County Sandbox:  
*County Sandbox:  
**Wilma created a table at the top of the county page to show when several of the recors types began,and other record to use for earlier time periods. She asked if it was helpful and if it belonged in that spot. We liked it in principle. However we felt&nbsp; since Utah was a special case where church records figured so prominently in the early records of the state, the table needed to reflevct it better.  
**Wilma created a table at the top of the county page to show when several of the recors types began,and other record to use for earlier time periods. She asked if it was helpful and if it belonged in that spot. We liked it in principle. However we felt since Utah was a special case where church records figured so prominently in the early records of the state, the table needed to reflevct it better.  
**Wilma experimented with color on the page. It not only adds variety, but it increases interest. She even wondered if specific colors could be used for certain thingscertain on the pages.  
**Wilma experimented with color on the page. It not only adds variety, but it increases interest. She even wondered if specific colors could be used for certain thingscertain on the pages.  
**She also put boxes around some of the minor headings. They add a nice touch,but it raises questions: should Utah look different than other states? is it worth the effort? who will make the changes?  
**She also put boxes around some of the minor headings. They add a nice touch,but it raises questions: should Utah look different than other states? is it worth the effort? who will make the changes?  
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*Broad vision of the what and the why of what we are doing  
*Broad vision of the what and the why of what we are doing  
*Allow them to give ideas  
*Allow them to give ideas  
*Give&nbsp;purpose, reason for doing it, and impact  
*Give purpose, reason for doing it, and impact  
*Report&nbsp;each week about what they did and answer or ask any questions...etc.
*Report each week about what they did and answer or ask any questions...etc.


Show appreciation!!&nbsp; HOW IT HELPS!  
Show appreciation!! HOW IT HELPS!  


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=== 14 Dec 2011  ===
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#A reminder letter will be sent the day before the event to potential meeting attendees.<br>
#A reminder letter will be sent the day before the event to potential meeting attendees.<br>
#Wilma will copy assignments to the Utah Wiki meeting agenda.<br>
#Wilma will copy assignments to the Utah Wiki meeting agenda.<br>
#Wilma still needs to get feedback from selected US/Can reference&nbsp;consultants about her Church Unit template.<br>
#Wilma still needs to get feedback from selected US/Can reference consultants about her Church Unit template.<br>


=== 7 Dec 2011  ===
=== 7 Dec 2011  ===
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**5-10 minute overview and news  
**5-10 minute overview and news  
**10-15 minute training  
**10-15 minute training  
**Remaining time as Q&amp;A and hands-on practice&nbsp; <br>
**Remaining time as Q&amp;A and hands-on practice <br>
**If there are meeting attendees who sign on late, it may be helpful to repeat at the end of the meeting some things that were said in the beginning. <br>
**If there are meeting attendees who sign on late, it may be helpful to repeat at the end of the meeting some things that were said in the beginning. <br>
*Recruiting from UGA members: Wilma to contact Bud, Sue, and Carie&nbsp; to get member list by zip codeso she can identify people in different counties<br>
*Recruiting from UGA members: Wilma to contact Bud, Sue, and Carie to get member list by zip codeso she can identify people in different counties<br>
*Dawne has two missionaries on her team training volunteers. She has contacted the people who volunteered from Logan. When we get the meeting set up, we will invite them.  
*Dawne has two missionaries on her team training volunteers. She has contacted the people who volunteered from Logan. When we get the meeting set up, we will invite them.  
*Marilyn has had experience with populating cemeteries in the States on wiki. That gives her some idea of what is needed in Utah cemeteries. She has also had experience working with volunteers and writing wiki instructions for them. She knows more than most how to write step-by-step instructions without being wordy.<br>
*Marilyn has had experience with populating cemeteries in the States on wiki. That gives her some idea of what is needed in Utah cemeteries. She has also had experience working with volunteers and writing wiki instructions for them. She knows more than most how to write step-by-step instructions without being wordy.<br>
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*Wilma will continue creating a Progress Chart for Utah wiki tasks.She will also link a description of the tasks to the chart  
*Wilma will continue creating a Progress Chart for Utah wiki tasks.She will also link a description of the tasks to the chart  
*Participants will sign up for tasks by putting their initials with that category. The category will include several related tasks. They must understand that others may do tasks in their category they sign up for.&nbsp; For example some may want to sign up for a single task across the board. Do we want to make that possible in the sign up? Dawne and wilma will do the initial plan for ther tasks  
*Participants will sign up for tasks by putting their initials with that category. The category will include several related tasks. They must understand that others may do tasks in their category they sign up for. For example some may want to sign up for a single task across the board. Do we want to make that possible in the sign up? Dawne and wilma will do the initial plan for ther tasks  
*We need to plan recruiting efforts.
*We need to plan recruiting efforts.


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*Our first heading will be Quick Facts  
*Our first heading will be Quick Facts  
*The topic Neighboring Counties is a must. It shoud be a subtopic of Quick Facts and appear immediately below it.&nbsp;
*The topic Neighboring Counties is a must. It shoud be a subtopic of Quick Facts and appear immediately below it.
*Don't delete any headings when no info found for them on county pages. Instead note that no data was found. It might eventually be a valid heading
*Don't delete any headings when no info found for them on county pages. Instead note that no data was found. It might eventually be a valid heading


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*From Sep 7: Wilma will finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance next week -- Not done  
*From Sep 7: Wilma will finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance next week -- Not done  
*From Sep 7: Marilyn will fix the FS Library template to link from a subject in the county to that subject in the FS Catalog (not a category search, but a county/subject search)  
*From Sep 7: Marilyn will fix the FS Library template to link from a subject in the county to that subject in the FS Catalog (not a category search, but a county/subject search)  
*MJM worked on the Utah adoption sign.When she schanges the text we want to change, it affects everyadoption template. She sent an email to Diane Loosle about it.&nbsp;&nbsp;The change we propose to the template could really be an improvement.
*MJM worked on the Utah adoption sign.When she schanges the text we want to change, it affects everyadoption template. She sent an email to Diane Loosle about it. The change we propose to the template could really be an improvement.


<br>'''Agenda items''' for today's discussion  
<br>'''Agenda items''' for today's discussion  
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*LDS will need its own brainstorming.  
*LDS will need its own brainstorming.  
*Danielle is organizing a contest for wiki content that will take place the beginning of 2012 after NY,  
*Danielle is organizing a contest for wiki content that will take place the beginning of 2012 after NY,  
*Class in Logan Oct 15. Wilma prepared&nbsp;her&nbsp;syllabus material. Patsy and Dawne will go&nbsp;to&nbsp;Logan too.&nbsp;
*Class in Logan Oct 15. Wilma prepared her syllabus material. Patsy and Dawne will go to Logan too.  


'''Information/Discussion Items'''  
'''Information/Discussion Items'''  
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*Immediate: Write for Crossroads -- a WikiProject Utah article send it to Gina Ortega. Just an update on what we're doing. Inviting.  
*Immediate: Write for Crossroads -- a WikiProject Utah article send it to Gina Ortega. Just an update on what we're doing. Inviting.  
*Contact James well before meeting on the 28th. This meeting was postponed because our ducks didn't all get put in a row. New Date is October 5. It is planned to be 1 hour.&nbsp;Wilma now has a list of those who should be invited to the planning/brainstorming meeting.  
*Contact James well before meeting on the 28th. This meeting was postponed because our ducks didn't all get put in a row. New Date is October 5. It is planned to be 1 hour. Wilma now has a list of those who should be invited to the planning/brainstorming meeting.  
*WA contact MJM re: FS Catalog template  
*WA contact MJM re: FS Catalog template  
*Patsy and Marilyn will schedule a room. And Dawne will set up meetingplace.
*Patsy and Marilyn will schedule a room. And Dawne will set up meetingplace.
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**What specifics shall we cover?
**What specifics shall we cover?


'''Information/Discussion&nbsp;Items'''  
'''Information/Discussion Items'''  


*Wilma is going to Logan FH Conference On Octoberr 15. Perhaps Dawne and Patsy will go with her. Fran is presenting about wiki.  
*Wilma is going to Logan FH Conference On Octoberr 15. Perhaps Dawne and Patsy will go with her. Fran is presenting about wiki.  
*What is&nbsp;role of [[FamilySearch Wiki:Moderator|moderator]]? The wiki has a fine description. So how does our position mesh with that? James Tanner has emailed back and forth with Patsy. She has shared those communications with the group.  
*What is role of [[FamilySearch Wiki:Moderator|moderator]]? The wiki has a fine description. So how does our position mesh with that? James Tanner has emailed back and forth with Patsy. She has shared those communications with the group.  
*Next few&nbsp;meetings, while we are still setting some things up, we will not open the meetings up to the public. Meeting&nbsp;on Sep 28 will be by invitation. Off-site people&nbsp;will attend by MeetingPlace. The purpose of the meeting will be to scope out projects  
*Next few meetings, while we are still setting some things up, we will not open the meetings up to the public. Meeting on Sep 28 will be by invitation. Off-site people will attend by MeetingPlace. The purpose of the meeting will be to scope out projects  
*Project pages need to say something about being UGA.
*Project pages need to say something about being UGA.


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*Wilma will finish the links to FS Catalog task for acceptance next week  
*Wilma will finish the links to FS Catalog task for acceptance next week  
*Wilma will &nbsp;finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance next week  
*Wilma will finish the Cemeteries task for acceptance next week  
*Marilyn will learn to create a wiki link to the subject index&nbsp;page in the FS Catalog  
*Marilyn will learn to create a wiki link to the subject index page in the FS Catalog  
*Marilyn will conduct next week's meeting in Wilma's absence
*Marilyn will conduct next week's meeting in Wilma's absence


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=== 31 Aug 2011  ===
=== 31 Aug 2011  ===


'''How Ya Doin?'''&nbsp;We're all doing.&nbsp; (MJM)  
'''How Ya Doin?''' We're all doing. (MJM)  


'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  
'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  


*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Guidelines_for_Including_Links_.28or_Not.29|Guidelines]]: Wiilma started the page of guidelines to help contributors determine what sites we link to according to quantity/quality of information. We edited the first few and were assigned to go through the rest separatele and return with suggestions.  
*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Guidelines_for_Including_Links_.28or_Not.29|Guidelines]]: Wiilma started the page of guidelines to help contributors determine what sites we link to according to quantity/quality of information. We edited the first few and were assigned to go through the rest separatele and return with suggestions.  
*MJM check on FS Library template for&nbsp;linking&nbsp;to&nbsp;a subject ID. She will contact Steve Cotrell on this.  
*MJM check on FS Library template for linking to a subject ID. She will contact Steve Cotrell on this.  
*WA Created pages for tasks: Linking FS Catalog categories; Cemeteries: Patsy will work with Wilma to get these done. (Wilma is working with HQ support to get the problem fixed so she can create and set up her own pages.)
*WA Created pages for tasks: Linking FS Catalog categories; Cemeteries: Patsy will work with Wilma to get these done. (Wilma is working with HQ support to get the problem fixed so she can create and set up her own pages.)


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'''Assignments<br>'''MJM: Change the page adoption template so it invites people to contribute, not to adopt a page. She will also contact Steve Cotrell to see if you can connect to a sujject on the catalog.  
'''Assignments<br>'''MJM: Change the page adoption template so it invites people to contribute, not to adopt a page. She will also contact Steve Cotrell to see if you can connect to a sujject on the catalog.  


PXH: Contacted&nbsp;Utah moderators. She sent them each a letter soliciting their support for our work with UGA to create tasks and solicit volunteers,  
PXH: Contacted Utah moderators. She sent them each a letter soliciting their support for our work with UGA to create tasks and solicit volunteers,  


WA will do everything else  
WA will do everything else  
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'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  
'''Show and Tell''' accomplishments and follow-up from last week  


*Report: UT GenWeb tasks: Beaver County [[Beaver County, Utah#Military|Military]] and [[Beaver County, Utah#Vital_Records|Vital]]. Wilma has worked on this as an example of what she found at GenWeb and how she entered it. We thought she did well. We&nbsp;did suggest tha&nbsp;she link to GenWeb where it is mentioned. This item led to a discussion about how many entries a record needed to have before it should be added to wiki. Many times GenWeb has only a few images someone has entered for their family. Should everything there be noted? We determined that the number would vary accorsing to:  
*Report: UT GenWeb tasks: Beaver County [[Beaver County, Utah#Military|Military]] and [[Beaver County, Utah#Vital_Records|Vital]]. Wilma has worked on this as an example of what she found at GenWeb and how she entered it. We thought she did well. We did suggest tha she link to GenWeb where it is mentioned. This item led to a discussion about how many entries a record needed to have before it should be added to wiki. Many times GenWeb has only a few images someone has entered for their family. Should everything there be noted? We determined that the number would vary accorsing to:  
**Did it cause clutter on the page, or was it misleading, making someone believe there was more info available than there was?  
**Did it cause clutter on the page, or was it misleading, making someone believe there was more info available than there was?  
**How good was the coverage?  
**How good was the coverage?  
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**Consider the place  
**Consider the place  
**If a record with few entries was listed, it shouls appear lower on the list
**If a record with few entries was listed, it shouls appear lower on the list
*Follow up: UGA board meeting this Friday. Patsy will present info on the Utah project pages and wanted suggestions on what to share. She will show the project pages. She also plans to have a blurb about the Utah wiki project for the website that connects to an email allowing people to volunteer. We would like the FamilySearch link to go to the Utah wiki page. Or there should be a third&nbsp;link that connects to the Utah wiki.  
*Follow up: UGA board meeting this Friday. Patsy will present info on the Utah project pages and wanted suggestions on what to share. She will show the project pages. She also plans to have a blurb about the Utah wiki project for the website that connects to an email allowing people to volunteer. We would like the FamilySearch link to go to the Utah wiki page. Or there should be a third link that connects to the Utah wiki.  
*Follow up: Pat - would she listen to recordings or are minutes sufficient? Probably not. but each week we will ask to see if she will be able to sign in remotely.  
*Follow up: Pat - would she listen to recordings or are minutes sufficient? Probably not. but each week we will ask to see if she will be able to sign in remotely.  
*Follow up: Church records project at county level. See first draft of ideas. (Word document)
*Follow up: Church records project at county level. See first draft of ideas. (Word document)
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**Illinois community has decided to put all repositories, including court houses, as well as societies and museums at the bottom of the page. And they've reorganized the repositories' grouping. Their thinking is that users want records - especially online ones - before they want to know repositories, We do not have to follow this lead. In fact we will not worry about that at this time. Instead we will focusing our time on content. Organization will come later.  
**Illinois community has decided to put all repositories, including court houses, as well as societies and museums at the bottom of the page. And they've reorganized the repositories' grouping. Their thinking is that users want records - especially online ones - before they want to know repositories, We do not have to follow this lead. In fact we will not worry about that at this time. Instead we will focusing our time on content. Organization will come later.  
**One decision Illinois made that we don't like is to make many Level 2 heading. Supposedly text and pictures can wrap around them, but this is not the case. Also they chose a heading to begin the county page content that doesn't make sense in the content of the content that follows. The heading was "[County name] County Organization." Then what follows i a table listing when varios record types began. Patsy will, however, get wid of level 2 headigs in usah.
**One decision Illinois made that we don't like is to make many Level 2 heading. Supposedly text and pictures can wrap around them, but this is not the case. Also they chose a heading to begin the county page content that doesn't make sense in the content of the content that follows. The heading was "[County name] County Organization." Then what follows i a table listing when varios record types began. Patsy will, however, get wid of level 2 headigs in usah.
*Start a Preferred formats section on the main project page? After saying we would focus on adding content in the last bullet, we would like to identify some standard formats for entering data. This&nbsp;could become a style guide of sorts  
*Start a Preferred formats section on the main project page? After saying we would focus on adding content in the last bullet, we would like to identify some standard formats for entering data. This could become a style guide of sorts  
**Use bullets for each item?  
**Use bullets for each item?  
**List statewide items under each county? or link to a page that lists them?
**List statewide items under each county? or link to a page that lists them?
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*Dawne schedule a physical place to meet.  
*Dawne schedule a physical place to meet.  
**Results:Done.&nbsp; We will meet in the 3rd floor glass room through December 2011.&nbsp; We can use the phone 801-240-3120.&nbsp; If the phone isn't in the glass room, we need to get the phone from the drawer in the cabinet by the photocopier inside the doors to the administration area.<br>
**Results:Done. We will meet in the 3rd floor glass room through December 2011. We can use the phone 801-240-3120. If the phone isn't in the glass room, we need to get the phone from the drawer in the cabinet by the photocopier inside the doors to the administration area.<br>
*Possible change in meeting time to allow Pat to attend. A possible time is 2:15 on Tuesdays, Wilma will attend through MeetingPlace.  
*Possible change in meeting time to allow Pat to attend. A possible time is 2:15 on Tuesdays, Wilma will attend through MeetingPlace.  
**Results:We will need to keep Wednesdays at 9:30am because of conflicts.&nbsp; Pat may be able to call in using the above numbers.
**Results:We will need to keep Wednesdays at 9:30am because of conflicts. Pat may be able to call in using the above numbers.
*Dawne Set up Meeting Place so it is recorded.  
*Dawne Set up Meeting Place so it is recorded.  
**Results: MeetingPlace was set up. Verify that it is automatically recorded. It will be recorded except when we don't use Meeting Place, like today.<br>
**Results: MeetingPlace was set up. Verify that it is automatically recorded. It will be recorded except when we don't use Meeting Place, like today.<br>
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**Results: Done. It is called WikiProject Utah Meeting Notes.
**Results: Done. It is called WikiProject Utah Meeting Notes.
*Wilma read Patsy's article about the Utah adopting for UGA Crossroads.  
*Wilma read Patsy's article about the Utah adopting for UGA Crossroads.  
**Results: Wilma hopes to accomplish this before going camping. (Wilma's comments)&nbsp; She did this and approved the article.<br>
**Results: Wilma hopes to accomplish this before going camping. (Wilma's comments) She did this and approved the article.<br>
*Wilma update the instructions for linking as discussed in the meeting.  
*Wilma update the instructions for linking as discussed in the meeting.  
**Results: Done. See [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Adding_Links|Adding Links]] Dawne is testing the instructions to see if they are clear and correct.
**Results: Done. See [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Hows#Adding_Links|Adding Links]] Dawne is testing the instructions to see if they are clear and correct.
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**Results: Made a number of changes, especially to ''Where to find the information'' [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks County History|Tasks County History]] I believe the task got a little easier to accomplish.  
**Results: Made a number of changes, especially to ''Where to find the information'' [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Tasks County History|Tasks County History]] I believe the task got a little easier to accomplish.  
**Please review them and comment on the discussion page and sign with four tildes.  
**Please review them and comment on the discussion page and sign with four tildes.  
**Completed&nbsp;[[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] to test the instructions.
**Completed [[Tooele County, Utah#history|Tooele County]] to test the instructions.
*Wilma will add a section called "Tasks Waiting in the Wings".  
*Wilma will add a section called "Tasks Waiting in the Wings".  
**Results: Done. See the WikiProject Utah page.
**Results: Done. See the WikiProject Utah page.