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==Calculating Birth Dates==  
==Calculating Birth Dates==  


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So how does one calculate a date to get as close as possible to the date of birth?  '''''By using a Date Calculator that works the way genealogical records work - which is almost always by first subtracting the years, then subtracting the months, then subtracting the weeks, then subtracting the days.'''''
So how does one calculate a date to get as close as possible to the date of birth?  '''''By using a Date Calculator'''''.  **However there are two ways a date calculator may be formulated to calculate such dates.  If given certain scenarios this link will calculate both ways.  We can't be 100% sure which method was used to calculate the age at death. (check NOTE)
 
*The way to use it is to put in the date of death. '''Subtract''' the number of Years, Months, (weeks if given), Days; then click the calculate button.  The answer is under the lower left corner under the colored box. <br>
 
*If for some reason you have the Date of Birth and have the number of Years/Months/Days when died you would put in the date of birth click '''Add''' followed by the number of years/Months/(weeks)/days then click calculate to get the date of death. <br>
 
* If you want to calculate and age use the [https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html Duration Between Two Dates Calculator] <br>


'''''NOTE: some date calculators use the reverse order, which will calculate a different date in many scenarios!'''''


To check whether a calculator works for genealogy an example would be: Death: 13 Mar 1870, Age: 5 years 10 months, 13 days, Birthday: 30 Apr 1864. (An incorrect date calculator will show 28 Apr 1864 - do not use it or you will be off by days on your calculations.)
The Following is an example of a Date Calculator that is on the Date and Time web page, click on the picture or on the link that is just below the picture to go to a live calculator, have fun doing your own calculating of Dates. <br>


*Each calculator uses a different interface, so the instructions are calculator-specific. In general, you want to insert the death date and then ask the calculator to '''Subtract''' the number of Years, Months, (weeks if given), Days.<br>


*If you have the Date of Birth and have the number of Years/Months/Days when died you would put in the date of birth click '''Add''' followed by the number of years/Months/(weeks)/days then click calculate to get the date of death. <br>
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<tr><td>[[File:Html7.jpg|145px|left]]</td><td style="vertical-align:top">'' Depending on the scenario given this calculator might give you two dates, scroll down far enough to see if there are two dates with one being an alternate, if there is, either could be correct, depending on how age was calculated at death.  (if unsure which would be the correct date you could enter on documents as day/day, Month, year) For more information and tips: [[Birth and Death Date Calculators|click here]]
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*If you want to calculate and age, you can use this tested-working [https://www.calculator.net/date-calculator.html Date Calculator] <br>
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To discover additional Date calculator links and tips: [[Birth and Death Date Calculators|click here]]
[https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html ''online Date Calculator website''] If a pink box shows up saying error just x it)




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|[http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fgris/family/brown/agecalc.html Age Calculator]
|[http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fgris/family/brown/agecalc.html Age Calculator]  
|Rootsweb
|Rootsweb  
|Has 4 various calculators to determine birth date and age including the '''**8870''' method
| Has both ways to calculate the date of birth and two ways to calculate age
| Has both the calendar month method and the 30 day month method (**8870) to chose from.
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|[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/age.html Ancestor Search Age Calculator]
| [http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/age.html Ancestor Search Age Calculator]  
|[http://www.searchforancestors.com/ searchforancestors.com]
| [http://www.searchforancestors.com/ searchforancestors.com]  
|Used when you want to determine the date of death from a birth date and exact age
| Used to determine age from birth date and death date
| Uses calendar month method
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|[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Tombstone Birthday Calculator]
| [http://longislandgenealogy.com/birth.html Birth Date Calculator]  
|[http://www.searchforancestors.com/ searchforancestors.com]
| [http://longislandgenealogy.com longislandgenealogy.com]  
|This calculator allows Julian calendar '''or''' Gregorian dates to help you calculate birth date when the tombstone only gives the date of death and the exact age. This calendar also allows for a 30 day month or '''**(8870)''' method
| Used to determine birthdate from age at death
| Use the calendar month method
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|[http://longislandgenealogy.com/birth.html Birth Date Calculator]
| [http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Tombstone Birthday Calculator]  
|[http://longislandgenealogy.com longislandgenealogy.com]
| [http://www.searchforancestors.com/ searchforancestors.com]  
|Used to help you calculate birth date when the tombstone only gives the date of death and the exact age
| This calculator allows Julian calendar '''or''' Gregorian dates to help you calculate birth date from age at date of death. This calendar also allows for an month method or 30 day month method
| Has options to use calendar month or 30 day method
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==Tips==
==Tips==


*Be aware that some of these Websites have other types of calculators with different functions, explanations and tips, with various kinds of information. So check out the rest of the page. (The following examples are what you might find for tips)
* Be aware that some of these Websites have other types of calculators with different functions, explanations and tips, with various kinds of information. So check out the rest of the page. (The following examples are what you might find for tips)


*Some calculators may require you to put a 0 in a box instead of leaving a box blank, also using a 0 in front of a single digit month may or may not be required.
* Some calculators may require you to put a 0 in a box instead of leaving a box blank, also using a 0 in front of a single digit month may or may not be required.


*Due to possible errors or different methodology used in Calculated dates from original calculations. (found on the tombstone, obituary or death certificates) , please make a note in your records that the date was calculated..
* Due to possible errors or different methodology used in Calculated dates from original calculations. (found on the tombstone, obituary or death certificates) , please make a note in your records that the date was calculated..  


*The calculator could also be used to calculate birth year from census data or birth date from wedding date and age.
* The calculator could also be used to calculate birth year from census data or birth date from wedding date and age.


*When calculating Dates using the Julian or Gregorian Calendar you can't use the two together.
* When calculating Dates using the Julian or Gregorian Calendar you can't use the two together.


*There is what is called a 30-day-month/or '''**8870''' method which assumes that all months have 30 days, many of the headstones and obituary ages at death appear to have been computed using this method. It's an approximation which agrees with the exact calendar month method about 2/3 of the time.) <ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>
* There is what is called a 30-day-month/or '''**8870''' method which assumes that all months have 30 days, many of the headstones and obituary ages at death appear to have been computed using this method. It's an approximation which agrees with the exact calendar month method about 2/3 of the time.) <ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>


*Because of the change from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar, the calculator may not work for anyone born between Sept. 2, 1752 and Sept. 14, 1752 or when days were lost at the calendar changeover.<ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>
* Because of the change from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar, the calculator may not work for anyone born between Sept. 2, 1752 and Sept. 14, 1752 or when days were lost at the calendar changeover.<ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>


*Be aware the calendar was changed from Julian to Gregorian in which ever country for which you are performing the calculation. See the [http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/gregorian.html change from Julian to Gregorian calendar Dates] by country.<ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>
* Be aware the calendar was changed from Julian to Gregorian in which ever country for which you are performing the calculation. See the [http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/gregorian.html change from Julian to Gregorian calendar Dates] by country.<ref>[http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html Ancestor search]</ref>


==How to calculate by hand==
==How to calculate by hand==
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[[Category:Research analysis and instruction]]
[[Category:Research analysis and instruction]]

Latest revision as of 12:32, 4 July 2021


Calculating Birth Dates

We all know that having birth dates helps us to complete the information for our ancestors and birth dates many times are much harder to find the further back you go. But many times we at least have the date of death with the age listed in Years-months-days.

This information can be found on

  • death records
  • old cemetery stones
  • church record
  • possibly Obituaries


So how does one calculate a date to get as close as possible to the date of birth? By using a Date Calculator. **However there are two ways a date calculator may be formulated to calculate such dates. If given certain scenarios this link will calculate both ways. We can't be 100% sure which method was used to calculate the age at death. (check NOTE)

  • The way to use it is to put in the date of death. Subtract the number of Years, Months, (weeks if given), Days; then click the calculate button. The answer is under the lower left corner under the colored box.
  • If for some reason you have the Date of Birth and have the number of Years/Months/Days when died you would put in the date of birth click Add followed by the number of years/Months/(weeks)/days then click calculate to get the date of death.


The Following is an example of a Date Calculator that is on the Date and Time web page, click on the picture or on the link that is just below the picture to go to a live calculator, have fun doing your own calculating of Dates.


Html7.jpg
Depending on the scenario given this calculator might give you two dates, scroll down far enough to see if there are two dates with one being an alternate, if there is, either could be correct, depending on how age was calculated at death. (if unsure which would be the correct date you could enter on documents as day/day, Month, year) For more information and tips: click here .

Date calculator.PNG

online Date Calculator website If a pink box shows up saying error just x it)


Other online calculators

Links Website Description Method
Age Calculator Rootsweb Has both ways to calculate the date of birth and two ways to calculate age Has both the calendar month method and the 30 day month method (**8870) to chose from.
Ancestor Search Age Calculator searchforancestors.com Used to determine age from birth date and death date Uses calendar month method
Birth Date Calculator longislandgenealogy.com Used to determine birthdate from age at death Use the calendar month method
Tombstone Birthday Calculator searchforancestors.com This calculator allows Julian calendar or Gregorian dates to help you calculate birth date from age at date of death. This calendar also allows for an month method or 30 day month method Has options to use calendar month or 30 day method

Tips

  • Be aware that some of these Websites have other types of calculators with different functions, explanations and tips, with various kinds of information. So check out the rest of the page. (The following examples are what you might find for tips)
  • Some calculators may require you to put a 0 in a box instead of leaving a box blank, also using a 0 in front of a single digit month may or may not be required.
  • Due to possible errors or different methodology used in Calculated dates from original calculations. (found on the tombstone, obituary or death certificates) , please make a note in your records that the date was calculated..
  • The calculator could also be used to calculate birth year from census data or birth date from wedding date and age.
  • When calculating Dates using the Julian or Gregorian Calendar you can't use the two together.
  • There is what is called a 30-day-month/or **8870 method which assumes that all months have 30 days, many of the headstones and obituary ages at death appear to have been computed using this method. It's an approximation which agrees with the exact calendar month method about 2/3 of the time.) [1]
  • Because of the change from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar, the calculator may not work for anyone born between Sept. 2, 1752 and Sept. 14, 1752 or when days were lost at the calendar changeover.[2]

How to calculate by hand

When the online calculator is not available, use the **8870 formula or the 30 day month length [4]

For example: If a person died May 6, 1889 at age 71 years, 7 months and 9 days:


18890506 Year, day, month of death (yyyymmdd) 1889--05--06

-710709 Subtract age at death (yymmdd) 71yr-07mo-09dd 

_________ 18179797

   -Subtract constant 8870

________ 18170927 Born 27 Sept. 1817 (yyyymmdd) 1817yr-09mo-27dd

This person was born on September 27, 1817

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