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=== The Polish-Prussian Branch of the Family === | === The Polish-Prussian Branch of the Family === | ||
The earliest occurances of the Mathia - Matthia Familiy in Poland are in the area near Tuchola, in the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship in northern Poland. In the earliest church records are four | The earliest occurances of the Mathia - Matthia Familiy in Poland are in the area near Tuchola, in the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship in northern Poland. In the earliest church records are four couples who we call "patriarchs" and "matriarchs." Three lived in the village of Żalno (German Sehlen, Reetz parish), northwest of Tuchola. One lived in Groß Komorze (Wielka Komorza). These two villages are only 10 kilometers apart going through Stobno on the way. With links to Family Tree (must be logged in), these patriarchs and matriarchs were: | ||
*[https://familysearch.org/tree/ | *[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9XYB-XZV Franz and Catharina (birth estimated 1729, residence Sehlen)] | ||
*[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K6D3-913 Joannis and Elisabeth (birth estimated 1732, residence Sehlen)] | *[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K6D3-913 Joannis and Elisabeth (birth estimated 1732, residence Sehlen)] | ||
*[https://familysearch.org/tree/ | *[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9XYB-XDY Stephan and Marianna (birth estimated 1735, residence Sehlen)] | ||
*[https://familysearch.org/tree/ | *[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LD3S-NR7 Lorenz (birth estimated 1740, residence Groß Komorze)] | ||
These men could have been brothers, but we have not yet found records of their births. There are earlier occurrences of the Mathia name in the Tuchel area, but no direct connections have yet been possible. Since many or most of the Mathia-Matthia family members (of the Polish-Prussian Branch) actively doing research are descended from one of these patriarchs, there is less information about possible descendants of the others in the area. | These men could have been brothers, but we have not yet found records of their births. There are earlier occurrences of the Mathia name in the Tuchel area, but no direct connections have yet been possible. Since many or most of the Mathia-Matthia family members (of the Polish-Prussian Branch) actively doing research are descended from one of these patriarchs, there is less information about possible descendants of the others in the area. | ||
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=== The Bas Rhin Branch of the Family === | === The Bas Rhin Branch of the Family === | ||
[https://familysearch.org/tree/ | [https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KCXS-1FQ Christian Matthia, born about 1720] and married 4 January 1749 in Puberg, Bas-Rhin, France, is the patriarch of this branch. Christian's descendants are spread through France, Europe, and the United States today. Many American descendants come through Peter Matthia, born 17 February 1835 in Hambach, Bas-Rhin, France. Peter died 1 August 1906 near Joplin, Missouri. In the United States, his name was spelled Mathia. For the purposes of Mathia - Matthia Family Organization Y-DNA research, it is important to identify male-to-male descendants of Christian who are not descended through Peter. | ||
=== The Slovakian Branch of the Family === | === The Slovakian Branch of the Family === | ||
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== Current Projects == | == Current Projects == | ||
*Encourage Y-DNA testing for male descendants of the designated Mathia - Matthia patriarchs. A large number of tests from different modern brances are needed to increase the confidence level of any conclusions we make. | *Encourage participation in the [https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mathia-matthia/about Mathia-Matthia Surname Project] at FamilyTreeDNA.com. Invite Y-DNA testing for male descendants of the designated Mathia - Matthia patriarchs. A large number of tests from different modern brances are needed to increase the confidence level of any conclusions we make. | ||
*Continue extending and documenting Mathia - Matthia ancestry and descendancy lines.<br>Example: [ | *Continue extending and documenting Mathia - Matthia ancestry and descendancy lines.<br>Example: [https://matthiaorg.wordpress.com/patriarchs-and-matriarchs/europe/poland/kuyavian-pomerania/ Mathia - Matthia Descendancies in Kuyavian Pomerania] | ||
*Discover possible new branches that arose out of migrations before the beginning of Western record keeping for the common man. | *Discover possible new branches that arose out of migrations before the beginning of Western record keeping for the common man. | ||
*Enrich Mathia - Matthia genealogy by gathering written histories.<br>Example: [ | *Enrich Mathia - Matthia genealogy by gathering written histories.<br>Example: [https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/54631140?cid=mem_copy Memories of Lucia Mathia born Schulz written in 1977] | ||
== Past Projects == | == Past Projects == | ||
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== Links == | == Links == | ||
*[http://www. | *[http://www.matthia.org Mathia - Matthia Family website]. | ||
*Facebook group: [https://www.facebook.com/ | *Facebook group: [https://www.facebook.com/Mathia-Matthia-Family-Organization-241158442604466/?eid=ARBFXyOYmz2ZpTtYtaHHWGFX3apjxmOU9Nd5O2mDpsxD_rIzEp2ZmzSidOcmLL1QFa2M7bQKEPEOqmEW Mathia - Matthia Family Connections] | ||
[[Category:Family_Organizations]] | [[Category:Family_Organizations]] |
Latest revision as of 19:24, 9 September 2021
Established | 1998 |
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Contact Info | |
Address | 488 West Center St., Unit 240 Pleasant Grove UT 84062 |
Telephone | 801-735-9477 |
Website | www.matthia.org |
Society Officers | |
President | Kurt A. Matthia |
Members | c. 100 |
Volunteers | All |
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Background[edit | edit source]
The Mathia - Matthia Family Organization focuses on the origins and descendancies of a limited set of patriarchs who emerge at the beginning of Western record keeping for the common man.
The Mathia - Matthia Name[edit | edit source]
Name Spellings[edit | edit source]
The name may be spelled MATHIA, MATTHIA, MATHYIA, MATHEA, MATIA, MATYJA, MARTHIA or MATTHIAE. One feminine version of the name is MATHIOWNA. Spelling is not an issue, but descendancy from one of the designated lines is important. The Mathia-Matthia family surnames and lines are to be differentiated from lines carrying similar surnames derived patronymically (e.g. Mathias or Matthias in Scandinavia).
Historical Setting[edit | edit source]
The Mathia - Matthia grouping of surnames covers, at the beginning of Western record keeping, several distinct genetic lines. The greatest numbers distributed throughout the world today come from the Polish (perhaps Kashubian) line and from the Bas Rhin (Alsace-Lorraine) line. There is no evidence that the two are connected, but we are trying to promote DNA testing among descendants. There is also another smaller group with origins in Slovakia. It is possible that the German tribe "the Mattiaker," which settled by the Rhein and was mentioned by Tacitus in the listing of German tribes, was completely or partially conquered by the Romans under Caesar. With the vanquishing of the Romans by the Alemanni, the Mattiaker came under their rule. In the end they were subsumed by the Franks. If this is the correct origin of the name, then the grouping in Poland may have resulted from a migration at the time of the Teutonic knights. Read the history of the Mattiaker in German by clicking here. Link to map.
Mathia - Matthia Family Branches[edit | edit source]
So far we have identified two main branches of the family. The first of these originates in what is today Poland and formerly was Prussia, or the German Empire. The second originates in the Bas Rhin area of Alsace-Lorraine France. If the name "Mathia" or "Matthia" originated with the Germanic tribal name as suggested by Günter Mathia of Haunsheim, Germany, then there should be a genetic or DNA connection between the two branches. Some male members of the families from both branches have provided genetic samples, but it will take a large number of samples before any conclusions can be reached. Genetic DNA testing can be purchased or, under certain limitations, can be obtained for free. We encourage all male members of the family to have a Y-Chromosome test to move this investigation of origins along.
The Polish-Prussian Branch of the Family[edit | edit source]
The earliest occurances of the Mathia - Matthia Familiy in Poland are in the area near Tuchola, in the Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship in northern Poland. In the earliest church records are four couples who we call "patriarchs" and "matriarchs." Three lived in the village of Żalno (German Sehlen, Reetz parish), northwest of Tuchola. One lived in Groß Komorze (Wielka Komorza). These two villages are only 10 kilometers apart going through Stobno on the way. With links to Family Tree (must be logged in), these patriarchs and matriarchs were:
- Franz and Catharina (birth estimated 1729, residence Sehlen)
- Joannis and Elisabeth (birth estimated 1732, residence Sehlen)
- Stephan and Marianna (birth estimated 1735, residence Sehlen)
- Lorenz (birth estimated 1740, residence Groß Komorze)
These men could have been brothers, but we have not yet found records of their births. There are earlier occurrences of the Mathia name in the Tuchel area, but no direct connections have yet been possible. Since many or most of the Mathia-Matthia family members (of the Polish-Prussian Branch) actively doing research are descended from one of these patriarchs, there is less information about possible descendants of the others in the area.
In addition to the above four patriarch who have been connected with known descendants, the death of a Jacobus Mathia, age 95 (estimated birth 1681) is recorded in the Reetz parish:
There is an excellent possibility that Jacobus could be the grandfather of one or even all of the patriarchs!
The Bas Rhin Branch of the Family[edit | edit source]
Christian Matthia, born about 1720 and married 4 January 1749 in Puberg, Bas-Rhin, France, is the patriarch of this branch. Christian's descendants are spread through France, Europe, and the United States today. Many American descendants come through Peter Matthia, born 17 February 1835 in Hambach, Bas-Rhin, France. Peter died 1 August 1906 near Joplin, Missouri. In the United States, his name was spelled Mathia. For the purposes of Mathia - Matthia Family Organization Y-DNA research, it is important to identify male-to-male descendants of Christian who are not descended through Peter.
The Slovakian Branch of the Family[edit | edit source]
This branch of the family has the least amount of research. It presently begins with Vincent Mathia (also spelled Matija) who was born about 1855 in Orkucany, Sabinov, Slovakia. To our knowledge, no Y-DNA has been collected from this branch.
Other Branches[edit | edit source]
As living people carrying the Mathia - Matthia name or it's variations contact this organization, every effort is made to use traditional genealogical research methods to connect them with a known branch of the family. All male-to-male descendants are invited to participate in Y-DNA testing.
Research Standards[edit | edit source]
In any effort as large as this, methods and standards must be used to create something of value for the generations to come. When we receive new information, we do our best to assure accuracy before publishing it at our website. We seek to identify and confirm a valid source for each entry.
History of the Organization[edit | edit source]
- This organization has arisen spontaneously as the Internet and social media networking has made it possible. Active organization members variously speak English, Polish, German, and French as native tongues--with some being multi-lingual.
Current Projects[edit | edit source]
- Encourage participation in the Mathia-Matthia Surname Project at FamilyTreeDNA.com. Invite Y-DNA testing for male descendants of the designated Mathia - Matthia patriarchs. A large number of tests from different modern brances are needed to increase the confidence level of any conclusions we make.
- Continue extending and documenting Mathia - Matthia ancestry and descendancy lines.
Example: Mathia - Matthia Descendancies in Kuyavian Pomerania - Discover possible new branches that arose out of migrations before the beginning of Western record keeping for the common man.
- Enrich Mathia - Matthia genealogy by gathering written histories.
Example: Memories of Lucia Mathia born Schulz written in 1977
Past Projects[edit | edit source]
- Establish a credible and documented genealogy of the Mathia - Matthia Family branches.
- Make research trips to Mathia - Matthia homelands.
Links[edit | edit source]
- Mathia - Matthia Family website.
- Facebook group: Mathia - Matthia Family Connections