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| We may need to cite sources differently depending on whether we're mentioning a great record source within the body of an article or creating a footnote. [[User:RitcheyMT|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | | We may need to cite sources differently depending on whether we're mentioning a great record source within the body of an article or creating a footnote. [[User:RitcheyMT|Ritcheymt]] 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| Are there standards for inline citations? What about citations in bulleted lists? I assume they follow bibliographic form, which is different from footnotes. Shown-Mills refers to both Chicago Style and MLA in her book Evidence. I assume she used them as her basis and made adjustments as needed to cover genealogical applications, kind of like how the GSU took the DD book numbering system and adjusted it to fit the needs of the FHL. Are Chicago Style and MLA all that dissimilar? I don't know. I would vote to use Shown-Mills, if my assumptions about her sources are true. [[User:BakerBH|Bakerbh]] 22:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC) | | Are there standards for inline citations? What about citations in bulleted lists? I assume they follow bibliographic form, which is different from footnotes. Shown-Mills refers to both Chicago Style and MLA in her book Evidence. I assume she used them as her basis and made adjustments as needed to cover genealogical applications, kind of like how the GSU took the DD book numbering system and adjusted it to fit the needs of the FS Library. Are Chicago Style and MLA all that dissimilar? I don't know. I would vote to use Shown-Mills, if my assumptions about her sources are true. [[User:BakerBH|Bakerbh]] 22:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| I like the footnote format (author's name in spoken order, parenthesis around publication information). So it makes sense to me to put WorldCat and FHL call numbers in square brackets rather than parenthesis. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 12:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC) | | I like the footnote format (author's name in spoken order, parenthesis around publication information). So it makes sense to me to put WorldCat and FS Library call numbers in square brackets rather than parenthesis. [[User:Diltsgd|Diltsgd]] 12:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC) |
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| === Online Availability of Books vs. Citations === | | === Online Availability of Books vs. Citations === |
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| There is another related issue here, I believe. If a book is totally available online, what is the value of multiple citations to a hard copy of the book? Are we not mostly building an online reference source? I try to think of the user "out there" in the world. If they can have access to a book online, in front of their computer, in their home, how much will they care where the actual book is? I still add the bibliographical information for the book, but I haven't been going out of my way to find the WorldCat number, or even the FHL number, if it's fully cited and linked to the digital copy online. If someone else wants to take the time to do so, I guess that's fine, but I'd rather move on to more content, rather than spending time looking up multiple references. If I have it, I add it. What think ye all? [[User:Jbparker|Jbparker]] 02:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | | There is another related issue here, I believe. If a book is totally available online, what is the value of multiple citations to a hard copy of the book? Are we not mostly building an online reference source? I try to think of the user "out there" in the world. If they can have access to a book online, in front of their computer, in their home, how much will they care where the actual book is? I still add the bibliographical information for the book, but I haven't been going out of my way to find the WorldCat number, or even the FS Library number, if it's fully cited and linked to the digital copy online. If someone else wants to take the time to do so, I guess that's fine, but I'd rather move on to more content, rather than spending time looking up multiple references. If I have it, I add it. What think ye all? [[User:Jbparker|Jbparker]] 02:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| :There you go, Jimmy -- ''thinking'' again. Nice catch. [[User:RitcheyMT|Ritcheymt]] 03:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC) | | :There you go, Jimmy -- ''thinking'' again. Nice catch. [[User:RitcheyMT|Ritcheymt]] 03:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| ::How many times does a link disappear? Then you have a link to nothing with only a partial reference to the book that used to be online. I realize I'm a librarian and a user second but I believe multiple sources leads the beginner to believe that the source is out there - somewhere - and accessible to them. And since the FHL makes up it's own call numbers, I think it should be included along with WorldCat. Yep, EVEN when it's online. See, Jimmy! I'm trying to get you to do more work! :) [[User:BatsonDL|BatsonDL]] 22:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC) | | ::How many times does a link disappear? Then you have a link to nothing with only a partial reference to the book that used to be online. I realize I'm a librarian and a user second but I believe multiple sources leads the beginner to believe that the source is out there - somewhere - and accessible to them. And since the FS Library makes up it's own call numbers, I think it should be included along with WorldCat. Yep, EVEN when it's online. See, Jimmy! I'm trying to get you to do more work! :) [[User:BatsonDL|BatsonDL]] 22:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC) |
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| === Extension? === | | === Extension? === |