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== Agenda  ==
== Agenda  ==


Marilyn Markham, one of the project leaders, is still in rehab and improving quickly. She fell on that icy Sunday morning, 22 Jan.  
First, get well wishes go to Marilyn Markham, one of the project leaders. She is in a rehab facility as the result of a fall about 2 1/2 weeks ago.  


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*James Tanner, Lee Drew and Liz Snow for volunteering.  
*Joy Bogar. She has been experimenting with the table at the top of the page and many other "little" things that add up to a lot.
*All of you who are attending--both for the first time, and those who have been to other meetings
*Lois Fowles. She has been using spare time she did not have to put FHL links into several counties.<br>
*All of you who are attending--both for the first time, and those who have been to most meetings (Liz, thank you!)


== News and Events  ==
== News and Events  ==


*The Wiki is being "uncooperative" this morning. Takes time and for some won't come up at all.
*[http://www.ugagenealogy.org/cpage.php?pt=11 UGA Virtual Chapter], every 3rd Thursday, 7:00 p.m. (Mountain)  
 
*[http://www.ugagenealogy.org/cpage.php?pt=11 UGA Virtual Chapter], every 3rd Thursday, 7:00 p.m. (Mountain) This week: The Tired, the Poor, the Huddled Masses, and the Wretched Refuse: U.S. Immigration from 1820 - 1954 with Beth Taylor
*[http://ugagenealogy.org/aem.php?eid=16 South Davis Family History Fair], March 2nd and 3rd. Scoll to bottom of the page to register.
*[http://ugagenealogy.org/aem.php?eid=16 South Davis Family History Fair], March 2nd and 3rd. Scoll to bottom of the page to register.


== Review of last meeting  ==
== Review of last meeting  ==


*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Community Meeting 2012 Feb 8|Feb 8 minutes]]
*[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Community Meeting 2012 Feb 1|Feb 1 minutes]]  
 
*Finish discussion about [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah Experimental County|top of county pages]]
*Progress reports:  
*Finalize the catalog links area so a task can be created
**FamilySearch Library Catalog links completed through Grand County. (Thanks, Lois)
**Task in prep for moving the table to the counties
**Task in prep (on temporary hold) for linking to Allen County Public Library topics for each county
**Have not yet worked with the "Provide Context" look and feel, as discussed 1 Feb.
**Examples for tips developed so far:


== Idea share  ==
== Idea share  ==


*'''Provide context''' for Cemeteries area. "Context" means that we help a beginner understand why they were linked to this topic from another topic, such as birth, marriage, or death.  
*'''Colored labels''' for sections
**Brainstorm: What do we need to say in the Cemeteries area, to help that person?  
*'''Provide context:''' example: a beginner selects "Birth" from the top table, then selects "Census" to see how censuses help with births.  
**Brainstorm: What do we need to say in the census area, to help that person understand?  
**Put a table or something visual  
**Put a table or something visual  
**Can they be told more visually than in words?
**Can they be told more visually than in words?  
**Words mean: Seldom is <10%; Sometimes 10-40%; Often 40-60; Frequent 60-80%; Usually 80-100%
**Blown up little section of a census -- visually understand.
**Relationship: names spouse: children; Implied relationship – who else is buried in that plot, proximity
**Or as a separate page to show what is in different censuses
 
**Graphic off to the right, words to add to understanding
'''Cemeteries context discussion:'''
**"Example:" Horizontally, highlight the age and birth place highlighted
*What info will cems give re: birth: Usually gives date of death;
**Point to not just births in value of census
**Tombstone: date of death (sometimes the place); age or date of birth; affiliations (mason, WOW, veterans, religion (sections of the cemetery), symbols
**If it is too long, do a More or Click here to a separate page  
*There are several records: private, church, public cems:
**Keep the main page clean, but tell me what else I can glean from the census (click to it)
**sometimes permits had to be issued.
**Don't load down the page, refer to other pages (keep it clean)
**Contract for purchasing the grave. Who purchased, where they died. some may have purchased several.
**Don't overwhelm, and don't overlink don't require them to link link link
**Permit for the grave (a gov doc) sometimes very detailed;
**Describe the link to the deeper explanations for birth
**sexton records (various formats) b,d info; Their records could have b,d for entire county.
**Have a list of what might be in diff censuses: be sure to read the headings of the census -- clues!  
**Also transport of bodies
**Where were the parents born, etc. etc.  
**Compilations of those various records. Some of the collections are spotty.
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**James: United States Cemeteries – everything is there. We need to be sure to link to it. Utah cemeteries page: it’s pretty good, too. We link to Utah cems page, it links to US page.
 
 
**Paupers fields: many have no headstones; AZ Territorial Prison – Just mounds of stones, no markers. Some are trying to create lists.
**Challenges: an old headstone may have been replaced with a new one. Info may be less reliable. Worn, hard to read, knocked over, vandalized, US Cems page
 
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*'''Tip Bank discussion'''
**Examples developed so far: (showed a PowerPoint of a few samples for the discussion. We decided we liked the "Memo" icon, but want it to say "Tip"
**Brainstorm tips for Cemeteries topic
 
'''Discussion notes'''
Concern: if an overachiever wants to put more in. Controlling other input is major. How to we explain to the world that we don’t want these updated there. This concern may not actually happen. If it does, we can talk with them and get that tip into the tip bank. Put a note in their talk page, we’d like to add this tip to the “bank”
Should be for everybody – experts and beginners. Serve them both. Hard to be all things to all people. Find the balance.
Be PR to the people that the Wiki is difficult to use.
Criticism: the Wiki is obscure for brand new users. Lead them, but don’t overwhelm. (Let's overcome that perception!)
Likes the Memo – but have it say Tips. Don’t like the leprechaun, but just a pot of gold might work. Some like just the word More Tips.
Cemetery pictures: generic one that works everywhere
If we use the same icon across the board, we could communicate better without words. Let’s start it in Utah and others can adopt/adapt.
James has some, will email it to Wilma
 
 
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*Where shall we keep the "Mine" for the tip bank? We need to "salt" it liberally, then have people wordsmith each tip.
*'''Tip Bank:'''
**After acceptance, each will be turned into a template. Each time a template is changed, it will automatically change everywhere it has been placed.
**What do you think of the idea?
**After templates are made, they need to also be placed in the Tip Bank that will be available to all to see
**Brainstorm tips and how they look


== Future meetings  ==
== Future meetings  ==
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Next week:  
Next week:  


*Progress reports
*Project to post the top table on each county
*Project to post FS Library and ACPL catalog links to each appropriate topic in each county  
*Project to post FHL and ACPL catalog links to each appropriate topic in each county  
*'''Provide context''' continued  
*'''Provide context''' continued  
*'''Tip Bank''' continued.
*'''Tip Bank''' continued.

Revision as of 10:35, 14 February 2012

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Agenda[edit | edit source]

First, get well wishes go to Marilyn Markham, one of the project leaders. She is in a rehab facility as the result of a fall about 2 1/2 weeks ago.

Introductions



Anyone new to this meeting?

Kudos go to...



  • Joy Bogar. She has been experimenting with the table at the top of the page and many other "little" things that add up to a lot.
  • Lois Fowles. She has been using spare time she did not have to put FHL links into several counties.
  • All of you who are attending--both for the first time, and those who have been to most meetings (Liz, thank you!)

News and Events[edit | edit source]

Review of last meeting[edit | edit source]

Idea share[edit | edit source]

  • Colored labels for sections
  • Provide context: example: a beginner selects "Birth" from the top table, then selects "Census" to see how censuses help with births.
    • Brainstorm: What do we need to say in the census area, to help that person understand?
    • Put a table or something visual
    • Can they be told more visually than in words?
    • Blown up little section of a census -- visually understand.
    • Or as a separate page to show what is in different censuses
    • Graphic off to the right, words to add to understanding
    • "Example:" Horizontally, highlight the age and birth place highlighted
    • Point to not just births in value of census
    • If it is too long, do a More or Click here to a separate page
    • Keep the main page clean, but tell me what else I can glean from the census (click to it)
    • Don't load down the page, refer to other pages (keep it clean)
    • Don't overwhelm, and don't overlink don't require them to link link link
    • Describe the link to the deeper explanations for birth
    • Have a list of what might be in diff censuses: be sure to read the headings of the census -- clues!
    • Where were the parents born, etc. etc.
  • Tip Bank:
    • What do you think of the idea?
    • Brainstorm tips and how they look

Future meetings[edit | edit source]

Meetings will be held on Wednesdays at 9:00 a.m.

Next week:

  • Project to post the top table on each county
  • Project to post FHL and ACPL catalog links to each appropriate topic in each county
  • Provide context continued
  • Tip Bank continued.

To discuss soon:

  • Vital records setup: making ready for items to be entered
  • Cemetery records
  • Church records

Family History Library (FHL); now called, FamilySearch Library (FSL)

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