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MeetingPlace ID: | MeetingPlace ID: 7770; [http://meetingplace.ldschurch.org/a/70ec431dabb0d9bd3506f4e1fe658fa7 Join the meeting]; Dial-in number: 877-453-7266 '''1 p.m. Mountain time on Tuesdays''' | ||
*You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist. | *You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist. | ||
*Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the MeetingPlace Test to verify that you can participate in a web meeting. | *Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the [https://chqmpweb1.ldschurch.org/mpweb/scripts/browsertest.asp?SessionID=GDadfjgdncdNiFhnhiijhbbhDg&Language=000 MeetingPlace Test] to verify that you can participate in a web meeting. | ||
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=== Introduce new members === | === Introduce new members === | ||
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=== Kudos go to ... === | === Kudos go to ... === | ||
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=== Updates and follow up === | === Updates and follow up === | ||
:*During an 11 October 2011 meeting of the Wiki Community and Wiki Engineers, a committee was appointed and charged to address issues related to stubs in the wiki. Our report follows; we invite comment and discussion on this forum. Items are numbered to facilitate responses to specific points<br>.<br>1. We need stubs. Without the stub on the page the page does not exist. This also makes the article searchable, and easier to find. | :*During an 11 October 2011 meeting of the Wiki Community and Wiki Engineers, a committee was appointed and charged to address issues related to stubs in the wiki. Our report follows; we invite comment and discussion on this forum. Items are numbered to facilitate responses to specific points<br>.<br>1. We need stubs. Without the stub on the page the page does not exist. This also makes the article searchable, and easier to find. | ||
:*2. Changing the name “stub” is not a good idea; this would cause many dead links and things that would need to be corrected. | :*2. Changing the name “stub” is not a good idea; this would cause many dead links and things that would need to be corrected. | ||
:*3. Develop a system to track all stub pages, so that we can maintain them. Place them on the maintenance page sorted by date of last edit.<br>a. Develop a template to put on a stub page that indicates it will be removed by _____ [insert a date] if content is not added. This would be accompanied by an email to the last contributor to the page of the pending action. | :*3. Develop a system to track all stub pages, so that we can maintain them. Place them on the maintenance page sorted by date of last edit.<br>a. Develop a template to put on a stub page that indicates it will be removed by _____ [insert a date] if content is not added. This would be accompanied by an email to the last contributor to the page of the pending action.<br>b. At present there is a sentence on the FamilySearch Wiki:Stub page (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Stub) that seems to capture stubs. It states “Find a listing of them in the Category:Stubs.” This page is inadequate, however; it returned only five stubs (on 12 October 2011). See Category:Help stubs https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Category:Help_stubs. We know there are many more than five.<br><br>4. Refine the criteria for removing stubs. The present criteria just defines the challenge:<br>FamilySearch Wiki:stub (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Stub)<br>“There is no set size at which an article stops being a stub. While very short articles are likely to be stubs, there are some subjects about which there is very little that can be written. Conversely, there are subjects about which a lot could be written - their articles may still be stubs even if they are a few paragraphs long. As such, it is impossible to state whether an article is a stub based solely on its length, and any decision on the article has to come down to an editor's best judgement “<br>We have place this on the Forums<br> | ||
=== Business/Announcements === | === Business/Announcements === | ||
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=== Style Guide Discussions === | === Style Guide Discussions === | ||
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=== Improve the Wiki === | === Improve the Wiki === | ||
:*What is the process for selecting feature articles? | :*What is the process for selecting feature articles? How do we emphasize the best? How do we make sure less-than-best or less-than-ready don't end up featured? [[User:Lembley|Lise]] 14:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
:*Subpages – Clarification and possible policy change. [[Help:Subpages|Help:Subpages]] says: “By default, MediaWiki's subpage feature is turned off in the main namespace, but can be used on [[Help:Talk pages|talk pages]] and [[Help:User page|user pages]]. See [[Help:Namespaces|Help:Namespaces]]. In namespaces where the feature is switched off, any slashes (/) within a page name are simply part of the page name and do nothing special.” | :*Subpages – Clarification and possible policy change. [[Help:Subpages|Help:Subpages]] says: “By default, MediaWiki's subpage feature is turned off in the main namespace, but can be used on [[Help:Talk pages|talk pages]] and [[Help:User page|user pages]]. See [[Help:Namespaces|Help:Namespaces]]. In namespaces where the feature is switched off, any slashes (/) within a page name are simply part of the page name and do nothing special.” | ||
::The above paragraph seems to talk about two different things. | ::The above paragraph seems to talk about two different things. | ||
::#Where subpages ''can'' be used. | ::#Where subpages ''can'' be used. This seems to imply that subpages are ''only'' for talk and user pages. | ||
::#The breadcrumb trail that can be automatically generated. | ::#The breadcrumb trail that can be automatically generated. Should this be turned on for other types of pages? Judy 19:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
:*What are all the FCK editor bugs? Can someone volunteer to add them to the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Known Issues|Known Issues]] page and/or the [[Help talk:The Editing Tool (FCK Editor)|Editing Tool]] page? | :*What are all the FCK editor bugs? Can someone volunteer to add them to the [[FamilySearch Wiki:Known Issues|Known Issues]] page and/or the [[Help talk:The Editing Tool (FCK Editor)|Editing Tool]] page? | ||
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*[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?p=41448#post41448 Refining the Moderator's Role] | *[https://www.familysearch.org/learn/forums/en/showthread.php?p=41448#post41448 Refining the Moderator's Role] | ||
'''Decisions made since last week''' | '''Decisions made since last week''' |
Revision as of 15:27, 17 October 2011
MeetingPlace ID: 7770; Join the meeting; Dial-in number: 877-453-7266 1 p.m. Mountain time on Tuesdays
- You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist.
- Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the MeetingPlace Test to verify that you can participate in a web meeting.
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Introduce new members[edit | edit source]
Kudos go to ...[edit | edit source]
Updates and follow up[edit | edit source]
- During an 11 October 2011 meeting of the Wiki Community and Wiki Engineers, a committee was appointed and charged to address issues related to stubs in the wiki. Our report follows; we invite comment and discussion on this forum. Items are numbered to facilitate responses to specific points
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1. We need stubs. Without the stub on the page the page does not exist. This also makes the article searchable, and easier to find. - 2. Changing the name “stub” is not a good idea; this would cause many dead links and things that would need to be corrected.
- 3. Develop a system to track all stub pages, so that we can maintain them. Place them on the maintenance page sorted by date of last edit.
a. Develop a template to put on a stub page that indicates it will be removed by _____ [insert a date] if content is not added. This would be accompanied by an email to the last contributor to the page of the pending action.
b. At present there is a sentence on the FamilySearch Wiki:Stub page (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Stub) that seems to capture stubs. It states “Find a listing of them in the Category:Stubs.” This page is inadequate, however; it returned only five stubs (on 12 October 2011). See Category:Help stubs https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Category:Help_stubs. We know there are many more than five.
4. Refine the criteria for removing stubs. The present criteria just defines the challenge:
FamilySearch Wiki:stub (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Wiki:Stub)
“There is no set size at which an article stops being a stub. While very short articles are likely to be stubs, there are some subjects about which there is very little that can be written. Conversely, there are subjects about which a lot could be written - their articles may still be stubs even if they are a few paragraphs long. As such, it is impossible to state whether an article is a stub based solely on its length, and any decision on the article has to come down to an editor's best judgement “
We have place this on the Forums
- During an 11 October 2011 meeting of the Wiki Community and Wiki Engineers, a committee was appointed and charged to address issues related to stubs in the wiki. Our report follows; we invite comment and discussion on this forum. Items are numbered to facilitate responses to specific points
Business/Announcements[edit | edit source]
Style Guide Discussions[edit | edit source]
Project Help Requests[edit | edit source]
- Need help with your project? See a project that needs to be done? Add it here:
Training Requests[edit | edit source]
Improve the Wiki[edit | edit source]
- What is the process for selecting feature articles? How do we emphasize the best? How do we make sure less-than-best or less-than-ready don't end up featured? Lise 14:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Subpages – Clarification and possible policy change. Help:Subpages says: “By default, MediaWiki's subpage feature is turned off in the main namespace, but can be used on talk pages and user pages. See Help:Namespaces. In namespaces where the feature is switched off, any slashes (/) within a page name are simply part of the page name and do nothing special.”
- The above paragraph seems to talk about two different things.
- Where subpages can be used. This seems to imply that subpages are only for talk and user pages.
- The breadcrumb trail that can be automatically generated. Should this be turned on for other types of pages? Judy 19:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- What are all the FCK editor bugs? Can someone volunteer to add them to the Known Issues page and/or the Editing Tool page?
Moderators and Adopters[edit | edit source]
Forums Overview[edit | edit source]
- Be part of the solution! Make your opinions known! Post comments to an existing thread or start a new discussion at Wiki Contributors Corner forum.
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