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-==Finding the Town of Birth==
+==Finding the Town of Origin==
-In order to research your family in the Netherlands, it is essential that you have identified the place where they came from.  You must know the city, town, or parish that they came from. A few records are indexed, but many records will require going directly to photocopied local records, which are only available by town name.  it will be difficult to identify the place of origin by going directly to Dutch sources. Therefore, you will need to search in United States (or other country of arrival)  sources first.
+In order to research your family in the Netherlands, it is essential that you have identified the place where they came from.  You must know the city, town, or parish that they came from.   it will be difficult to identify the place of origin by going directly to Dutch sources. Therefore, you will need to search in United States (or other country of arrival)  sources first.
 == Important Tips  ==
 Before you can begin to search in the records of the Netherlands you must find that one record that gives the name of his or her hometown. You must also know enough about the ancestor to positively identify him in the records. Dates (even if they are approximate), places, and familial connections are key to helping you decide if a person you find, who has the same name as your ancestor, really is your ancestor.
-*Do you know the name of his parents?
+*Do you know the name of his/her parents?
-*Do you know his birth, marriage, or death date or can you calculate an approximate range of years to search for his birth, marriage, or death?
+*Do you know his/her birth, marriage, or death date or can you calculate an approximate range of years to search for his/her birth, marriage, or death?
-*Do you know the name of his wife? Did they marry before or after coming to the United States?<br>
+*Do you know the name of the spouse? Did they marry before or after coming to the United States?<br>
-*Do you know the names of any of his siblings?
+*Do you know the names of any of his/her siblings?
 *Do you know the names of any children born in the Netherlands?
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 #  When they first came, were there already family members here who they joined?
 #  Did_______________ever mention their parents in the Netherlands?
-#  Were they Catholic?
+#  Were they Catholic or some other religion?
 #  Do you have any old letters or postcards from your the Netherlands family?
 #  Do you have any pictures of family members in the Netherlands?
 ==Search Genealogies Compiled by Others==
+*[http://www.cbg.nl Centrum voor Familigeschiedenis] Resources include printed genealogies in the CBG librar yand contact information of others researching the surname
+*[http://www.voorouders.net/ Voorouders.et], compiled family trees and genealogies
+*[http://www.cbgfamilienamen.nl/nfb/ Dutch Family Surname Database (Nederlandse Familienamenbank)]
 *[[Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Two: Online Family Tree Collections]]
 *[[Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Three: Digitized Books]]
 *[[Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Four: FamilySearch Wiki Tools]]
+==Records of The Netherlands==
+===Make Sure You Found the Correct Entry for Your Ancestor===
+{|
+|-
+|[[File:Icon-warning.png|100px]]
+|
+There may be many types of indexed records that cover parts, even large parts of the Netherlands. Searching those indexes by name only can turn up several entries of the same name. '''Never jump to an immediate conclusion that you have found an entry that matches your ancestor'''. Study the information for other clues that verify the match.
+|}
+*Make sure the person you found in Dutch records '''left the Netherlands'''. Look for them in marriage and death records of the same vicinity. See whether they have children a generation later in the vicinity. These things prove they remained in the Netherlands and would rule them out as your ancestor.
+*Match '''any other relationships'''.  If you already know the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names, make sure they match the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names of the person you are considering in the Dutch records. The parents and grandparents will usually be listed in birth records found in '''church records''' or '''civil records'''. Search for siblings' birth records and any marriage before leaving the Netherlands in the same index.
+*Study '''all available entries for that name born at the same approximate time''', not just the first possible match you see.
+*Consider the '''coverage of the database''' you are using. Does it cover all of the Netherlands? Or could there be many other records not covered that could hold your ancestor's record.
+*Make sure the details you have learned about the person after they immigrate have '''no discrepancies''' with the person you found in Dutch records.
+===Nationwide Indexes===
-==Records of The Netherlands==
+It is possible to search some indexes being developed that cover the whole country.  In that sense, it may seem that you can search for your ancestor without knowing the town. '''But notice these cautions:'''<br>
-==Nationwide Indexes==
+:1. The index might show '''several individuals with identical names,''' very close dates, and partially similar parents' names. You will need as much detail as possible, taken from other records about your ancestor, to correctly pick your ancestor out of all these duplicates.<br>
-It is possible to search some indexes being developed that cover the whole country.  In that sense, it may seem that you can search for your ancestor without knowing the town. But notice these cautions:
+:2.  Since the index is incomplete, your ancestor might not have been added to it yet.  You might '''mistakenly settle for an entry that seems the closest match''', simply because the correct match is not available yet.
-. The index might show '''several individuals with identical names, very close dates, and somewhat similar parents names.''' You will need as much detail as possible to correctly pick your ancestor out of all these duplicates.
-.  Since the index is complete, your ancestor might not have been added to it yet.  You might mistakenly settle for an entry that seems the '''closest match''', simply because the correct match is not available yet.
 '''Use these indexes.  But first locate all the detail you can in other records about the family. Expect a high level of matching before trusting your connection to an entry:  exact matching dates, matching parents, matching siblings, matching spouses, matching children. Verify that the person you choose did not die in the Netherlands.'''<br>
 *[https://www.wiewaswie.nl/ WieWasWie] -Major site containing most civil registration records, and some population registers, church records, newspapers and military records
-*[https://www.openarch.nl/ Open Archives] Similar to WieWasWie but with slightly more records. A big portion of its records can be searched in the collections {{RecordSearch|2704829|Netherlands, Archival Indexes, Miscellaneous Records}} and *{{RecordSearch|2821274|Netherlands, Archival Indexes, Public Records}}, index.
+*[https://www.openarch.nl/ Open Archives] Similar to WieWasWie but with slightly more records.
+*{{RecordSearch|2704829|Netherlands, Archival Indexes, Miscellaneous Records}}
+*{{RecordSearch|2821274|Netherlands, Archival Indexes, Public Records}}, index.
 ===Passenger Lists===
 *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=structuredcrawledsites-458&so=2&pcat=IMG_PASSLISTS&gsln=Dolvie&gsln_x=XO&gss=angs-c Web: Netherlands, Dutch East India Company Passenger Lists to India, 1699-1794]. Index.
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 *{{RecordSearch|1916283| Netherlands, Passenger Lists Holland-America Line}}, 1900-1974. Passenger lists for the Holland-America Line (Holland Amerika Lijn)<br><br>
-==Records to Search in the Country of Arrival==
+==Records to Search Created in the United States==
+[[Category:Finding Town of Origin]]
 ===Census Records===
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 *Censuses  can be accessed online. Links to both free and subscription websites are found at [[United States Census Online Genealogy Records|'''United States Census Online Genealogy Records.''']]
 *State census records vary in availability and the type of information they contain, but they are always useful as another source to document an ancestor in a specific locality. See [[Online Genealogy Records by Location#U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State|'''U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State''']] for links to online state censuses.
+<br>
+'''Example: This 1900 census shows the birthdate and birthplace of the head of the household and his parents as Amsterdam, Holland (in red).  It tells the year he immigrated, how many years he has lived in the U.S. and whether he is a citizen.'''
+<br>
+[[File:NL 1900 census.png|1000px]]
 ===Vital Records ===
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 [https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Category:How-To_Articles '''How-To Articles'''].
 *Many records may be online. See [[Online Genealogy Records by Location#U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State|'''U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State''']], for online vital record databases.<br>
+{|
+|-
+|style="padding-right:25px; vertical-align:top"|
+'''Example:  This Michigan death certificate gives the birthdate of the deceased, her birthplace in Holland, the names of her parents, and their birthplace in Holland.'''
+<br>
+[[File:NL death cert.png|500px]]
+|style="padding-right:25px; vertical-align:top"|
+'''Example:  This Montana marriage certificate gives the birthdate of the groom, his birthplace in Holland, and the names of his parents.'''
+<br>
+[[File:NL marriage.png|500px]]
+|}
 ===Cemetery Records===
-Websites such as [https://www.findagrave.com/ '''FindAGrave'''] and [https://billiongraves.com/ '''Billion Graves'''] are making it easier to get information from headstones, which frequently give birth dates, and occasionally give birth places. Each state has additional collections of cemetery records. See [[Online Genealogy Records by Location#U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State|'''U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State''']] for links to other online cemetery records. Every state also has a Cemetery topic page you can search, for example,  [[California Cemeteries]], [[Washington Cemeteries]]. etc.
+Websites such as [https://www.findagrave.com/ '''FindAGrave'''] and [https://billiongraves.com/ '''BillionGraves'''] are making it easier to get information from headstones, which frequently give birth dates, and occasionally give birth places. Each state has additional collections of cemetery records. See [[Online Genealogy Records by Location#U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State|'''U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State''']] for links to other online cemetery records. Every state also has a Cemetery topic page you can search, for example,  [[California Cemeteries]], [[Washington Cemeteries]]. etc.
+<br>
+'''Example:  This FindAGrave entry gives the birthdate, birthplace in Holland, and at least part of the parents' names.'''
+<br>
+[[File:NL Findagrave.png|600px]]
 ===Obituaries===
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 *[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7545 '''U.S. Obituary Collection, 1930-2017''']
 *[[Online Genealogy Records by Location#U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State|'''U.S. Online Genealogy Records by State''']]
+<br>
+'''Example:  Although this obituary gives only the province and not the town of birth in the Netherlands, it does give complete information on the marriage.  Using that information, we can locate the original marriage record, which will state the birthplace and enable us to find the original birth record. '''
+<br>
+[[File:NL obituary.png|500px]]
 ===Social Security===
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 **[http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=60901 U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007], Incomplete, ($).
 *The Social Security Applications and Claims Index does not cover every application--it has sort of an eclectic mix of what got included.  If you find your ancestor in the ''Social Security Death Index'' but '''not''' in the ''Social Security Applications and Claims Index'', you can [https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWeb/internet/main.jsp '''send away for a copy of the application'''.]
+<br>
+[[File:NL SS app.png|400px]]
 ===Military Records===
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 *{{RecordSearch|1968530|U.S. WW I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918}} Index and images.
 *[http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6482 U.S. WW I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918] Indexes and images. ($)
-*{{RecordSearch|1339071|United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942}} image browse, alphabetical by state.
+*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1002 U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942], - index & images ($)
 *{{RecordSearch|1861144|United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942}} Images with partial index.
-*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2498 U.S., Alien Draft Registrations, Selected States, 1940-1946],($),  index and images.
+*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2498 U.S., Alien Draft Registrations, Selected States, 1940-1946],($),  index & images.
+<br>
+{|
+|-
+|style="vertical-align:top; padding-right:30px"|
+'''U.S. WW I Draft Registration Card'''
+<br>
+[[File:WW I.png|450px]]
+|style="vertical-align:top|
+'''U.S., World War II Draft Registration Card'''
+<br>
+[[File:Screen Shot 2018-10-22 at 5.13.12 PM.png|450px]]
+|}
 ===Passenger Arrival Lists===
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 is a comprehensive list of passenger arrival databases that you can search right now from your computer. There are many, many databases. The following search strategy will make your search more efficient.
 ====Suggested Search Strategy====
-# Check the [[United States Immigration Online Genealogy Records#Partner Sites Indexing Multiple Databases|'''partner website indexes,''']] as these cover many, many databases at once. The FamilySearch Historical Records databases is free to search with a free registered account. The other websites are subscription-based but can be searched for free at a [[Family History Center|''' Family History Center''']] near you.  Try to search each partner site because their search engines can often bring up slightly different results.
+# Check the [[United States Immigration Online Genealogy Records#Partner Sites Indexing Multiple Databases|'''partner website indexes,''']] as these cover many, many databases at once. The FamilySearch Historical Records databases is free to search with a free registered account. The other websites are subscription-based but can be searched for free at a [[FamilySearch Center|''' FamilySearch Center''']] near you.  Try to search each partner site because their search engines can often bring up slightly different results.
 # If it is difficult for you to get access to the subscription databases, next try [[United States Immigration Online Genealogy Records#Additional Collections Not Included in Above Partner Site Indexes|'''Additional Nationwide Collections Not Included in Partner Sites'''.]] These websites have a lot of overlap with the subscription websites.
 # Search a [[United States Immigration Online Genealogy Records#Immigration Records by Ethnic, Nationality, Political, Religious, or Socioeconomic Groups|'''nationality, religious, or political group collection''']] that applies to your ancestor.
 #Search the [[United States Immigration Online Genealogy Records#'''Immigration by State'''|'''state collection for the first state where your ancestor lived.''']]
-#Read [[Tracing Immigrants Introduction|'''Tracing Immigrant Origins''']] to learn about many other records that substitute for immigration records.
+<br>
+'''Example: This first page of passenger list gives several clues that can lead to records in the Netherlands.'''
+<br>
+[[File:NL passenger list.png|1050px]]
+<br>
+'''Example:  The second page of a passenger list gives the birthplace in the Netherlands.  It can also state information on other relatives.'''
+<br>
+[[File:Screen Shot 2018-10-22 at 6.05.30 PM.png|1050px]]
 ===Naturalization Records===
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 *More information about naturalization records, along with helpful links, is found at  [[Beginning Research in United States Naturalization Records]] and [[United States Naturalization Online Genealogy Records]].
 ===Passport Applications===
-*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1174 U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925], ($), index and images
+*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1174 U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925], - index & images ($)
 [[Category:Netherlands]]
+<br>
+'''Example:  This passport application gives the birthdate and birthplace of the applicant in the Netherlands, his father's name and birthplace,'''
+<br>
+[[File:Screen Shot 2018-10-22 at 6.14.53 PM.png|900px]]
 ===Alien Registration===
 *[http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/aliens/a-files-kansas-city.html '''Alien Registration Form:'''] If your ancestor lived in the United States between 1 August 1940 and 31 March 1944.  Search the [https://www.archives.gov/research/catalog '''index online'''], by entering the person's name and the term A-File. If you find a catalog entry for the person, then [https://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/aliens/a-files-kansas-city.html#use '''order the full file.''']
+<br>
+'''Example:  This online index entry for an A-File gives minimal identifying information.  You then send for the full file which can contain birth records, marriage records, and other legal documents.'''
+<br>
+[[File:Screen Shot 2018-10-22 at 6.33.37 PM.png|600px]]