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*'''Communicate''': If in doubt, make the extra effort so that other people understand you. It is equally important for you to understand the viewpoint of others. Being friendly is a great help. It is always good to give an explanation of your views. It is less helpful for you to voice an opinion without explaining how you came to have that viewpoint. Explaining an opinion and listening to the opinion of others helps all to reach consensus.  
*'''Communicate''': If in doubt, make the extra effort so that other people understand you. It is equally important for you to understand the viewpoint of others. Being friendly is a great help. It is always good to give an explanation of your views. It is less helpful for you to voice an opinion without explaining how you came to have that viewpoint. Explaining an opinion and listening to the opinion of others helps all to reach consensus.  
*'''Keep on topic''': Talk pages are for discussing the specific ''article'', not for general conversation about the article's subject or more periforal topics. Keep discussions focused on the improvment of the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal.  
*'''Keep on topic''': Talk pages are for discussing the specific ''article'', not for general conversation about the article's subject or more periforal topics. Keep discussions focused on the improvment of the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal.  
*'''Be positive''': Article Talk pages should be used to discuss ways to improve an article. The Talk page is not a venue used to criticize, pick apart, or vent about the current status of an article or its subject. If you feel something is wrong, but are not sure how to fix it, then by all means feel free to draw attention to this and ask for suggestions from others. 
*'''Be positive''': Article Talk pages should be used to discuss ways to improve an article. The Talk page is not a venue used to criticize, pick apart, or vent about the current status of an article or its subject. If you feel something is wrong, but are not sure how to fix it, then by all means feel free to draw attention to this and ask for suggestions from others.
*'''Stay objective''': Talk pages are not a forum for editors to argue their '''personal point of view''' about a controversial issue. They are a forum to discuss how the different '''points of view obtained from secondary sources''' should be included in the article, so that the end result is [[FamilySearch Wiki:NPOV|neutral and objective]] (which may mean including conflicting viewpoints). The best way to present a case is to find properly referenced material.  
*'''Stay objective''': Talk pages are not a forum for editors to argue their '''personal point of view''' about a controversial issue. They are a forum to discuss how the different '''points of view obtained from secondary sources''' should be included in the article, so that the end result is [[FamilySearch Wiki:NPOV|neutral and objective]] (which may mean including conflicting viewpoints). The best way to present a case is to find properly referenced material.  
*'''Deal with facts''': The Talk page is the ideal place for all issues relating to [[FamilySearch Wiki:Verifiable|verification]]. This includes asking for help to find sources, comparing contradictory facts from different sources, and examining the reliability of references. <u>Asking for a verifiable reference to support a statement is often better than arguing against it.</u>  
*'''Deal with facts''': The Talk page is the ideal place for all issues relating to [[FamilySearch Wiki:Verifiable|verification]]. This includes asking for help to find sources, comparing contradictory facts from different sources, and examining the reliability of references. <u>Asking for a verifiable reference to support a statement is often better than arguing against it.</u>  
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*'''Use English''': No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on Talk pages in the English version of the wiki. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or use an internet translator.  
*'''Use English''': No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on Talk pages in the English version of the wiki. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or use an internet translator.  
*'''Centralized discussion:''' Avoid posting the same thread in multiple forums. This fragments discussion of the idea. Instead, start the discussion in one location, and, if needed, advertise that in other locations using a link. If you find a fragmented discussion, it may be desirable to move all posts to one location, and linking to it. Make sure you state clearly in edit summaries and on Talk pages what you have done and why.  
*'''Centralized discussion:''' Avoid posting the same thread in multiple forums. This fragments discussion of the idea. Instead, start the discussion in one location, and, if needed, advertise that in other locations using a link. If you find a fragmented discussion, it may be desirable to move all posts to one location, and linking to it. Make sure you state clearly in edit summaries and on Talk pages what you have done and why.  
*'''Be welcoming to newcomers:''' People new to wiki may be unfamiliar with policy and conventions. [[FamilySearch Wiki:Be kind to newcomers|Be kind to newcomers]]. If someone does something against custom, [[FamilySearch Wiki:Assume good faith|assume it was an unwitting mistake]]. [[FamilySearch Wiki:Civility and Polite Discourse|Politely]] and gently point out their mistake, reference the relevant policy/guideline/help pages, and suggest a better approach.  
*'''Be welcoming to newcomers:''' People new to wiki may be unfamiliar with policy and conventions. If someone does something against custom, [[FamilySearch Wiki:Assume good faith|assume it was an unwitting mistake]]. [[FamilySearch Wiki:Civility and Polite Discourse|Politely]] and gently point out their mistake, reference the relevant policy/guideline/help pages, and suggest a better approach.  
*'''[[FamilySearch Wiki:No personal attacks|Comment on content, not on the contributor]]''': Keep the discussions focused upon the topic of the Talk page, rather than on the personalities of the editors contributing to the Talk page.
*'''[[FamilySearch Wiki:No personal attacks|Comment on content, not on the contributor]]''': Keep the discussions focused upon the topic of the Talk page, rather than on the personalities of the editors contributing to the Talk page.


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