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==Finding the Town of Origin== | ==Finding the Town of Origin== | ||
In order to research your family in | In order to research your family in their "old" country, it is essential that you have identified the place where they came from. You must know the city, town, or parish that they came from. | ||
== Important Tips == | == Important Tips == | ||
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# What do you know about our first ancestor to | # What do you know about our first ancestor to immigrate? (open-ended) | ||
# Have you ever heard mention of towns in Ukraine where the family lived? | # Have you ever heard mention of towns in Ukraine where the family lived? | ||
# Do you have contact with any relatives in Ukraine? | # Do you have contact with any relatives in Ukraine? | ||
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# When they first came, were there already family members here who they joined? | # When they first came, were there already family members here who they joined? | ||
# Did_______________ever mention their parents in Ukraine? | # Did_______________ever mention their parents in Ukraine? | ||
# Were they Catholic | # Were they Catholic? | ||
# Do you have any old letters or postcards from Ukraine family? | # Do you have any old letters or postcards from Ukraine family? | ||
# Do you have any pictures of family members in Ukraine? | # Do you have any pictures of family members in Ukraine? | ||
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There | There are many types of indexed records that cover parts, even large parts of Ukraine. Searching those indexes by name only can turn up several entries of the same name. '''Never jump to an immediate conclusion that you have found an entry that matches your ancestor'''. Study the information for other clues that verify the match. | ||
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*Make sure the person you found in | *Make sure the person you found in Italian records '''left Ukraine'''. Look for them in marriage and death records of the same vicinity. See whether they have children a generation later in the vicinity. These things prove they remained in Ukraine and would rule them out as your ancestor. | ||
*Match '''any other relationships'''. If you already know the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names, make sure they match the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names of the person you are considering in the | *Match '''any other relationships'''. If you already know the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names, make sure they match the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names of the person you are considering in the Italian records. The parents and grandparents will usually be listed in birth records found in [[Ukraine Church Records|'''church records''']] or [[Ukraine Civil Registration|'''civil records''']]. Search for siblings' birth records and any marriage before leaving Ukraine in the same index. | ||
*Study '''all available entries for that name born at the same approximate time''', not just the first possible match you see. | *Study '''all available entries for that name born at the same approximate time''', not just the first possible match you see. | ||
*Consider the '''coverage of the database''' you are using. Does it cover all of Ukraine? Or could there be many other records not covered that could hold your ancestor's record. For example, if the database is for just one province, there are 110 other provinces which could have your ancestor's record. | *Consider the '''coverage of the database''' you are using. Does it cover all of Ukraine? Or could there be many other records not covered that could hold your ancestor's record. For example, if the database is for just one province, there are 110 other provinces which could have your ancestor's record. | ||
*Make sure the details you have learned about the person after they immigrate have '''no discrepancies''' with the person you found in | *Make sure the details you have learned about the person after they immigrate have '''no discrepancies''' with the person you found in Italian records. | ||
===Ukraine Records Databases to Try=== | ===Ukraine Records Databases to Try=== | ||
* | *[https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/GuidedResearch:Ukraine '''Ukraine Guided Research'''] | ||
*[[Ukraine Civil Registration|'''Ukraine Civil Registration''']], government birth, marriage, and death records are available online for many provinces from the early 1800s to the early or mid-1900s. These records can name grandparents in addition to parents, and towns for residence and/or birth for both. | |||
*There may be some [[Ukraine Church Records|'''Ukraine Church Records''']] online. | |||
*See [[Ukraine Emigration and Immigration|'''Ukraine Emigration and Immigration''']] for records of Italians immigrating, including some online digitized records and indexes. | |||
*See [[Ukraine Online Genealogy Records|'''Ukraine Online Genealogy Records''']] for other databases that might hold clues. | |||
==Records of the Country of Destination== | ==Records of the Country of Destination== | ||
* '''Church Records:''' If your ancestor immigrated to a European or a South American/Hispanic country, church records can be detailed enough to identify a former residence or birthplace in the home country. These countries, unlike the United States, had state churches. In many countries, these state churches were used by the country to keep birth, marriage, and death records. Even though your ancestor was born in his former country, he may have married, and certainly died in his new country. Marriage and death records can state birthplace. | * '''Church Records:''' If your ancestor immigrated to a European or a South American/Hispanic country, church records can be detailed enough to identify a former residence or birthplace in the home country. These countries, unlike the United States, had state churches. In many countries, these state churches were used by the country to keep birth, marriage, and death records. Even though your ancestor was born in his former country, he may have married, and certainly died in his new country. Marriage and death records can state birthplace. | ||
*'''Civil Registration:''' Eventually, most governments began keeping birth, marriage, and death records. These tend to be quite detailed. Again, if your ancestor was possibly married and certainly died in their new country, those records can state birthplace. | *'''Civil Registration:''' Eventually, most governments began keeping birth, marriage, and death records. These tend to be quite detailed. Again, if your ancestor was possibly married and certainly died in their new country, those records can state birthplace. | ||
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==Records to Search Created in the United States== | ==Records to Search Created in the United States== | ||
*[[U. S. Immigration Records: Finding the Town of Origin|'''U. S. Immigration Records: Finding the Town of Origin''']] | |||
[[Category:Finding Town of Origin]] | [[Category:Finding Town of Origin]] | ||
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Finding the Town of Origin[edit | edit source]
In order to research your family in their "old" country, it is essential that you have identified the place where they came from. You must know the city, town, or parish that they came from.
Important Tips[edit | edit source]
You must also know enough about the ancestor to positively identify him in the records. Dates (even if they are approximate), places, and familial connections are key to helping you decide if a person you find, who has the same name as your ancestor, really is your ancestor.
- Do you know the name of his/her parents?
- Do you know his/her birth, marriage, or death date or can you calculate an approximate range of years to search for his/her birth, marriage, or death?
- Do you know the name of the spouse? Did they marry before or after coming to the United States?
- Do you know the names of any of his/her siblings?
- Do you know the names of any children born in before the family emigrated?
Search Home Sources[edit | edit source]
Thoroughly go over all home sources available to you, including family history papers, copies of records, pictures, old letters (i.e. with an old address), family bibles, journals/diaries, copies of vital record certificates and church records, memorabilia etc. Interview extended family and close relatives as well as former neighbors--all of which may prove very helpful in gathering as much knowledge about an ancestor as possible.
- Collecting Previous Research by Others Part One: Home and Relative Sources
- Gather Family Information
Emigration Questions to Ask Relatives[edit | edit source]
Find the oldest living relatives that you can and ask them:
- What do you know about our first ancestor to immigrate? (open-ended)
- Have you ever heard mention of towns in Ukraine where the family lived?
- Do you have contact with any relatives in Ukraine?
- Do you have contact with other branches of the family in other countries?
- When _____________ came from Ukraine, did he travel with other family members?
- Do you know when _________________ arrived and which port city?
- Did _______________ever become a citizen?
- Did_________________fight in World War I or II?
- When they first came, were there already family members here who they joined?
- Did_______________ever mention their parents in Ukraine?
- Were they Catholic?
- Do you have any old letters or postcards from Ukraine family?
- Do you have any pictures of family members in Ukraine?
Search Genealogies Compiled by Others[edit | edit source]
- Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Two: Online Family Tree Collections
- Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Three: Digitized Books
- Collecting Previous Research by Others Part Four: FamilySearch Wiki Tools
Indexed Records Created in Ukraine[edit | edit source]
Make Sure You Found the Correct Entry for Your Ancestor[edit | edit source]
- Make sure the person you found in Italian records left Ukraine. Look for them in marriage and death records of the same vicinity. See whether they have children a generation later in the vicinity. These things prove they remained in Ukraine and would rule them out as your ancestor.
- Match any other relationships. If you already know the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names, make sure they match the parents' names, spouse's name, and/or siblings' names of the person you are considering in the Italian records. The parents and grandparents will usually be listed in birth records found in church records or civil records. Search for siblings' birth records and any marriage before leaving Ukraine in the same index.
- Study all available entries for that name born at the same approximate time, not just the first possible match you see.
- Consider the coverage of the database you are using. Does it cover all of Ukraine? Or could there be many other records not covered that could hold your ancestor's record. For example, if the database is for just one province, there are 110 other provinces which could have your ancestor's record.
- Make sure the details you have learned about the person after they immigrate have no discrepancies with the person you found in Italian records.
Ukraine Records Databases to Try[edit | edit source]
- Ukraine Guided Research
- Ukraine Civil Registration, government birth, marriage, and death records are available online for many provinces from the early 1800s to the early or mid-1900s. These records can name grandparents in addition to parents, and towns for residence and/or birth for both.
- There may be some Ukraine Church Records online.
- See Ukraine Emigration and Immigration for records of Italians immigrating, including some online digitized records and indexes.
- See Ukraine Online Genealogy Records for other databases that might hold clues.
Records of the Country of Destination[edit | edit source]
- Church Records: If your ancestor immigrated to a European or a South American/Hispanic country, church records can be detailed enough to identify a former residence or birthplace in the home country. These countries, unlike the United States, had state churches. In many countries, these state churches were used by the country to keep birth, marriage, and death records. Even though your ancestor was born in his former country, he may have married, and certainly died in his new country. Marriage and death records can state birthplace.
- Civil Registration: Eventually, most governments began keeping birth, marriage, and death records. These tend to be quite detailed. Again, if your ancestor was possibly married and certainly died in their new country, those records can state birthplace.
- Citizenship Records: If your ancestor became a full citizen, those records probably name birthplace and former residence.
- Online Genealogy Records: See Online Genealogy Records by Location and find the online genealogy record page for your country to see other indexed collections that can be consulted.