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=== Welcome   ===
=== Welcome&nbsp;  ===


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=== Kudos go to  ===
=== Kudos go to  ===
Lise - Thank you so much for drafting the style guide edits!
Steve:  Thank you for the redirect and for changing the category for the FindAGrave Index page
Thanks to this group for such synergy!


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=== Moderators and Adopters<br>  ===
=== Moderators and Adopters<br>  ===


Next week they will be at Thurs meeting. We will discuss  
Next week they will be at Thurs meeting. &nbsp;We will discuss  


Steve: On the ability to allow users to delete pages, I think the status quo is fine. Any user can tag a page for deletion but only admins can delete a page - is there a reason why this is not working?
*the ability of allowing users to delete pages.
 
With 2 of the 3 deletion request I have changed the page to a redirect as per
 
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Help:Deleting_a_page#When_not_to_delete_a_page
 
It's mostly better to redirect as some people may have bookmarked the old page<br>Steve (Guest): If a page has been titled incorrectly - move it
 
Rorie:  Used to be the engineers job.  They would review them. They gave permission for these two people. Currently, two members of support team assigned to delete pages
 
Ben:  User guidance is a role which is seeking having abiity to delete pages FamilySearch Historical records wiki.   
 
*the ability of allowing users to delete pages.


===== '''Conversation in the call:'''  =====
===== '''Conversation in the call:'''  =====
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=== Wiki Content  ===
=== Wiki Content  ===


*Discuss draft of text to add to style guide. See [[User:Lembley/sandbox1|Lembley/sandbox1]]. [[User:Lembley|Lise]] 18:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
*Discuss draft of text to add to style guide. &nbsp;See [[User:Lembley/sandbox1|Lembley/sandbox1]]. &nbsp;[[User:Lembley|Lise]] 18:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 


Lise will continue to work with draft and all are invited to edit in the above sandbox.  It will be presented to the Community Council when finished.


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=== Updates and follow up  ===
=== Updates and follow up  ===


*FindAGrave (historical records) - redirects needed (cannot find page if spaces are used or if caps are not used.  Steve added redirect.<br>  
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*Only category on [https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/FindAGrave_Index_(FamilySearch_Historical_Records) FindAGrave Index] is England.  Steve edited the category: Categories: Scheduled FamilySearch Historical Records | World FamilySearch Historical Records
 
Dorothy - Can we use more than one category? (ex US, England, Worldwide) 
 
                For other groups working add additional categories down below the article (FindAGrave)
 
Only one location can be defined in the header template, but additional categories can be added manually as with any page
 
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=== Community Council  ===
 
Will meet next week. 


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'''Getting Past the Boundary Changes (from August 8th Meeting)'''  
'''Getting Past the Boundary Changes (from August 8th Meeting)'''  


Steps contributors can take to help users in their localities find resources for extinct and redistricted areas (We will then move to Colonial Era and Antebellum resources).  
Steps contributors can take to help users in their localities find resources for extinct and redistricted areas &nbsp;(We will then move to Colonial Era and Antebellum resources).  


We need to assist in identifying records from 1900 back to pre-colonial times. For African Americans, we need to identify records between 1865-1870 (For example in SC: 1869 State Census, agricultural census, 1868 Voter's Registration, tax records) which can help link them back to resources generated prior to 1865. Researching dissertations at the Charleston County Libary revealed the fact that several post colonial era records (including church records - baptisms) exist for South Carolina that even identify persons of color.  
We need to assist in identifying records from 1900 back to pre-colonial times. For African Americans, we need to identify records between 1865-1870 (For example in SC: 1869 State Census, agricultural census, 1868 Voter's Registration, tax records) which can help link them back to resources generated prior to 1865. Researching dissertations at the Charleston County Libary revealed the fact that several post colonial era records (including church records - baptisms) exist for South Carolina that even identify persons of color.  
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*many records having genealogical value remain untouched in courthouses and exist nowhere else  
*many records having genealogical value remain untouched in courthouses and exist nowhere else  
*Record types are named differently in different localities  
*Record types are named differently in different localities  
*after researchers tap out using onine resources they need to be able to understand the research changes going back in time. Many useful records going back in time are not readily discussed and are not accessible online.  
*after researchers tap out using onine resources they need to be able to understand the research changes going back in time. &nbsp;Many useful records going back in time are not readily discussed and are not accessible online.  
*We must research respository holdings or query those who have this knowledge<br>
*We must research respository holdings or query those who have this knowledge<br>


Resources that help users identify historical records generated for example, in US colonial period and before county formations are greatly needed (also any extinct counties, districts, townships). What steps can contributors take to make sure users can find resources in these areas?  
Resources that help users identify historical records generated for example, in US colonial period and before county formations are greatly needed (also any extinct counties, districts, townships). &nbsp;What steps can contributors take to make sure users can find resources in these areas?  


1. Look at the localities that you have knowledge about. What are some areas this group has knowledge about or interest in?  
1. &nbsp;Look at the localities that you have knowledge about. What are some areas this group has knowledge about or interest in?  


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Review the area on the Wiki for resources available. Review to make sure it is easy for users to tell where to look for resources during time periods when resources were generated for this area. Add resources that you have knowledge about.  
Review the area on the Wiki for resources available. &nbsp;Review to make sure it is easy for users to tell where to look for resources during time periods when resources were generated for this area. Add resources that you have knowledge about.  


2. Pick an area. Learn about boundary changes. Use the following resources to learn about boundaries:  
2. &nbsp;Pick an area. Learn about boundary changes. &nbsp;Use the following resources to learn about boundaries:  


*See [https://digital.newberry.org/ahcb/ Newberry Library Atlas of Historical Boundaries]  
*See [http://publications.newberry.org/ahcbp/ Newberry Library Atlas of Historical Boundaries]  
*See also [https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Colonial_Times_1607-1789 Colonial Times]  
*See also [https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Colonial_Times_1607-1789 Colonial Times]  
*Red Book  
*Red Book  
*[https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/AniMap_Historical_Atlas-County_Boundries AniMap ]
*[https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/AniMap_Historical_Atlas-County_Boundries AniMap ]&nbsp;
*State boundaries, The Census Book  
*State boundaries, The Census Book  
*The Township Atlas  
*The Township Atlas  
*Resources at the local archives
*Resources at the local archives


3. Learn where records are held during different time periods for a particular state/province/county/parish, etc. What are some examples of respositories? Do not forget to check church records. They may be the only way to determine BMD before civil records existed.  
3. Learn where records are held during different time periods for a particular state/province/county/parish, etc. What are some examples of respositories? &nbsp;Do not forget to check church records. &nbsp;They may be the only way to determine BMD before civil records existed.  


4. Identify record types and what these records contain. Look for resources through  
4. Identify record types and what these records contain.&nbsp;Look for resources through  


*genealogical societies - query experts, attend presentations, and review publications  
*genealogical societies - query experts, attend presentations, and review publications  
*local library - find out who the local history manager is and what they know, resources they have.  
*local library - find out who the local history manager is and what they know, resources they have.  
*university libraries - check online and offline catalogs, and query manager of local history  
*university libraries - check online and offline catalogs, and query manager of local history  
*historical societies -
*historical societies -&nbsp;
*museums - check resources, online catalogs, vertical files
*museums - check resources, online catalogs, vertical files


Where can you go to learn about records that exist? Add information to the Wiki. Help users understand how to use these records.  
Where can you go to learn about records that exist? Add information to the Wiki. Help users understand how to use these records.  


5. Check online sites such as Internet Archives and Google Books for publications that can help users learn more about local histories. Some may also mention early settlers or allied family.  
5. &nbsp;Check online sites such as Internet Archives and Google Books for publications that can help users learn more about local histories. &nbsp;Some may also mention early settlers or allied family.  


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7. Attend a local genealogical workshop conference to meet other experts and learn of resources.  
7. &nbsp;Attend a local genealogical workshop conference to meet other experts and learn of resources.  


8.  
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* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
* Move issues to decision.<br>
* Move issues to decision.<br>
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* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
* Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
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Revision as of 12:03, 26 September 2013

MeetingPlace ID: 7770; Join the meeting; Dial-in number: 877-453-7266  1 p.m. Mountain time on Thursdays

  • You can join up to 10 minutes early. If you try to join the meeting at any other time, you will get an error that the meeting doesn't exist.
  • Prior to joining the meeting for the first time, run the MeetingPlace Test to verify that you can participate in a web meeting.


Welcome [edit | edit source]



Kudos go to[edit | edit source]



Moderators and Adopters
[edit | edit source]

Next week they will be at Thurs meeting.  We will discuss

  • the ability of allowing users to delete pages.
Conversation in the call:[edit | edit source]

Wiki Content[edit | edit source]

  • Discuss draft of text to add to style guide.  See Lembley/sandbox1.  Lise 18:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)



Updates and follow up[edit | edit source]



Getting Past the Boundary Changes (from August 8th Meeting)

Steps contributors can take to help users in their localities find resources for extinct and redistricted areas  (We will then move to Colonial Era and Antebellum resources).

We need to assist in identifying records from 1900 back to pre-colonial times. For African Americans, we need to identify records between 1865-1870 (For example in SC: 1869 State Census, agricultural census, 1868 Voter's Registration, tax records) which can help link them back to resources generated prior to 1865. Researching dissertations at the Charleston County Libary revealed the fact that several post colonial era records (including church records - baptisms) exist for South Carolina that even identify persons of color.

The challenge that we must overcome:

  • many records having genealogical value remain untouched in courthouses and exist nowhere else
  • Record types are named differently in different localities
  • after researchers tap out using onine resources they need to be able to understand the research changes going back in time.  Many useful records going back in time are not readily discussed and are not accessible online.
  • We must research respository holdings or query those who have this knowledge

Resources that help users identify historical records generated for example, in US colonial period and before county formations are greatly needed (also any extinct counties, districts, townships).  What steps can contributors take to make sure users can find resources in these areas?

1.  Look at the localities that you have knowledge about. What are some areas this group has knowledge about or interest in?

Review the area on the Wiki for resources available.  Review to make sure it is easy for users to tell where to look for resources during time periods when resources were generated for this area. Add resources that you have knowledge about.

2.  Pick an area. Learn about boundary changes.  Use the following resources to learn about boundaries:

3. Learn where records are held during different time periods for a particular state/province/county/parish, etc. What are some examples of respositories?  Do not forget to check church records.  They may be the only way to determine BMD before civil records existed.

4. Identify record types and what these records contain. Look for resources through

  • genealogical societies - query experts, attend presentations, and review publications
  • local library - find out who the local history manager is and what they know, resources they have.
  • university libraries - check online and offline catalogs, and query manager of local history
  • historical societies - 
  • museums - check resources, online catalogs, vertical files

Where can you go to learn about records that exist? Add information to the Wiki. Help users understand how to use these records.

5.  Check online sites such as Internet Archives and Google Books for publications that can help users learn more about local histories.  Some may also mention early settlers or allied family.

6. 

7.  Attend a local genealogical workshop conference to meet other experts and learn of resources.

8.

9.


Be bold, post your agenda items!

Feel free to post on the agenda any items you wish to discuss during the meeting. If your item requires details or feedback, post them on the discussion page and link to them from the agenda. Possible topics include:
  • Moderator and Adopters
  • Style Guide Discussions
  • Project Help Requests
  • Training Requests
  • Improve the Wiki


Purpose of the meeting

Improve the Wiki

  • Forge solutions with other community contributors.
  • Share best practices, ideas, and content.
  • Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
  • Move issues to decision.

 


Priority Items[edit | edit source]


Community Council Report[edit | edit source]

Items to pose to Community Council[edit | edit source]

Now that there are no forums, how do those who adopt a page monitor changes in the Wiki policy, guidelines, etc?



Business/Announcements[edit | edit source]


New Agenda Items[edit | edit source]



Be bold, post your agenda items!

Feel free to post on the agenda any items you wish to discuss during the meeting. If your item requires details or feedback, post them on the discussion page and link to them from the agenda. Possible topics include:
  • Moderator and Adopters
  • Style Guide Discussions
  • Project Help Requests
  • Training Requests
  • Improve the Wiki


Purpose of the meeting

Improve the Wiki

  • Forge solutions with other community contributors.
  • Share best practices, ideas, and content.
  • Discuss current issues, community matters, and strategies.
  • Move issues to decision.

 


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